moggy chicken log
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@sunsunsun "mayhaps" XDXD
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@alfredoolivas but why u think androstane avoidance is le good
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@sunsunsun intuition
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@sunsunsun god bless you sushi
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@alfredoolivas have you gone super low BF before? in my experience, doing more out there protocols can work really well (I lost 15lbs in just over a month doing honey diet) but its not very sustainable.
plus it really gets in the way of having a normal life...
Low fat + soft calorie tracking + moderate cardio has been the most sustainable low stress weight loss diet I've done. Aint broke=dont fix
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@samson yes and I did that type of diet last year and it worked but it wasn't as effective
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https://doi.org/10.1042/cs0600457
found the study referencing the study suggesting tren reduces both muscle synthesis as well as breakdown but reduces breakdown more ∴ it is anabolic to muscle
also says something about glucocorticoids
but main part of study says muscle put on with dianabol is different than normal muscle (i think) in that it is more contractile tissue and less water but im lazily reading it rn
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@sunsunsun Great find sushi
I think it was reffering to this study
It used a HED of 70mg a week for an 80kg man, which is a very low dose. They measured protein synthesis by measuring the concentration of RNA in muscle, which usually increases during AAS administration, but fell during trenbolone treatment. The tren rats had less amino acids in their muscle, indicating less muscle breakdown and more nitrogen per kg of bodyweights and normal organ sizes (actually less as a percent of bodyweight) it's interesting. to see its' unique effects
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unfortunately it looks like if you want to lose fat not super slowly, you need to endure some FAO
https://substack.com/home/post/p-189515524
the trick is, though, to limit FAO to short periods like at night or between meals during the day in order to not rely on cortisol and instead just stored glycogen and fat
this seems to be working for me super well
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@alfredoolivas do you think the phopshate deficient muscle that dbol puts on in that study is basically meaning that while gaining lean massthat ca:p ratio being lower is actually ok? on some bodybuilder diets phosphate can be 7.5g per day and i dont know if it is ok to have calcium come up even near that high.
i guess the only way to know is to do blood work to see serum levels
