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    Prolactin is an innocent bystander and may even be beneficial

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    • alfredoolivasA Offline
      alfredoolivas
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      Prolactin mogs in glucose tolerance tests and this is observed IRL too
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        LunaticRed @alfredoolivas
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        @alfredoolivas Interesting, can you link this study?

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        • alfredoolivasA Offline
          alfredoolivas @LunaticRed
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          @LunaticRed link above photo

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          • cs3000C Offline
            cs3000 @alfredoolivas
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            @alfredoolivas estrogen also helps in glucose intolerance in these models through signalling effects at the pancreas & lipogenesis lowering, so has different signalling ofc but prolactin is probably having estrogen like effects (shares some similar genes activation) (
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12670737/
            i read some connection a while back between prolactin and helping slow wave sleep though

            high estrogen not good for mood & tumors but good for initial early regeneration, e.g when destroy pancreas cells with a substance or high fat, and lowers lipogenesis in some places so less to deal with on top of the high fat coming in. i guess prolactin shares some of the pathways / gene effects
            https://academic.oup.com/endo/article-abstract/150/5/2109/2455831?login=false https://www.jci.org/articles/view/44564

            so good in those HFD contexts & for that aspect , but when it signals high for a long time it can cause metabolic problems instead "There may be a “goldilocks zone” for serum prolactin that promotes metabolic homeostasis"

            in a smaller case control study of 134 patients, the average concentration of prolactin in controls (18.38 µg/L) was found to be significantly higher than that of diabetic patients (5.39 µg/L) (109). Wang et al. also similarly showed that a high normal prolactin range (11.61-26.29 ng/mL) was most protective against insulin resistance and diabetes in a large cohort of patients with hyperprolactinemia

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21557442/ shows high levels create metabolic problems , giving more but not high levels helped

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            • alfredoolivasA Offline
              alfredoolivas @cs3000
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              @cs3000 I agree, the main point of this post was to warn people not to nuke it.

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              • alfredoolivasA Offline
                alfredoolivas
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                Human studies
                "a 2-3 fold increase of circulating PRL levels maintained for 1.5-3 h exerted no apparent effects on the secretion of endogenous LH, FSH and TSH."
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8258642/

                "Prolactin does not acutely influence renal electrolyte excretion and probably does not influence water excretion in man."
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/870513/

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                • alfredoolivasA Offline
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                  Prolactin group had much lower estradiol, but the before measurements were not taken

                  https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT00438490?tab=results#results-overview

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                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1950489/#sec10

                  Prolactin group had constantly lower estradiol

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                  Prolactin group ate less

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                  "Short-term prolactin administration causes expressible galactorrhea but does not affect bone turnover:"

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                  • engineerE Offline
                    engineer @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas so with how good prolactin is, tell us why we shouldn't prolactinmaxx (you know how)

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                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
                      alfredoolivas @engineer
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                      @engineer I have been doing that with great results.

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                        Ecstatic_Hamster @alfredoolivas
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                        thank you all for this incredibly valuable thread. @alfredoolivas thanks for starting it.

                        I suppose like estrogen, prolactin has its good sides. This has helped me see some more research material I would have missed that I can study.

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