Starting A Hair Regrowth Thread (Results, Thoughts, Etc. Drop em)
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Only regrowth I've seen was a guy on twitter with like 10 likes. The account is deleted or name changed, but I bookmarked it
"Nick (@nickpriestley4): "Operation Hair regrow These are a few weeks apart Protocol: Dermaroller 3x per week Red light nightly Ice pack nightly Miracle cream (I robbed that off futurama) nightly, which is a mix of: copper peptide, black seed oil, gotu kola, nicotinamide, coconut oil, Shea butter and beeswax Black castor oil every morning"
The images are gone, but he went from very little hair, to moderately sparse hair, as I recall.
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Theres a video of a black guy on youtube regrowing his hair naturally. He dermarolled often too. If someone knows what im talking about
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just seen another guy grow his hair back and grow it long after and he says massages and magnesium oil and some peppermint oil and hanging upside down. he also moved off grid to a tropical-adjacent country which i actually think might be suboptimal but the easy rural living is probably really beneficial
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@sunsunsun Maybe the combination of all that you list is the important thing—and I would argue de-stressing is maybe just as important as anything—but I can add the anecdotal experience (which I have elsewhere) that blood flow to the scalp alone (hanging upside down) has not helped my dad regrow hair. As early as I can remember, my dad was doing yoga, standing on his head, and it never helped hair regrowth, or even hair loss prevention, in any way. I can realistically say he stood on his head, nearly every day, for 25 years, and then continued with the hip stand for another 25+ years.
"To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
"The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis -
@Mossy @sunsunsun Yoga itself is unhealthy from bioenergetic standpoint. It may also depend on his diet. Was he eating “healthy” omega 3 from fat fish or “fiber”. As far as I know, people who are serious about yoga have terrible diet in the bioenergetic sense. They eat plant-based diet, participate in light caloric restriction, focus on cardio - all of these are incredibly bad for your metabolism and thyroid. He could not regrow hair simply due to the great burden he was putting on his organism.
Moreover, I doubt that being upside down for more than few seconds can be terapeutic, I would argue that the benefits lie in momentary change of blood flow, lasting mere seconds. After that, it becomes unnatural for your body and it releases stress hormones. Massaging scalp is quite different from that, it increases your blood flow only in a small area, without other consequences for your body.
Still, hair regrow is truly difficult process for your metabolism, I would not focus on it too much, since it is heavily dependent on your overall health.
As for the specific therapeutic practices which focus exclusively on the hair regrowth, I would recommend massages (you should not create friction for your skin, your fingers should “stick” to your scalp like the hands of spiderman, the goal is to move your skin around above your skull, not your fingers on the scalp) and topical aspirin, niacimide, caffeine and ethanol (for increased absorption of the rest). RLT may also be beneficial but that should be about it.
Remeber that hair regrowth is an indicator of your overall health, and even though you can be predispositioned to worse hair in an suboptimal metabolism, once you fix your thyroid, CO2 retention, get rid of PUFAs and fiber, it will start coming back naturally. The aforementioned remedies may amplificate the progress, however, they will not work without the baseline (and will merely create extra stress for your body).
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Sorry for the typos, I should have checked it first before submitting the reply.
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theres lots of evidence pufas help skin and hair health so idk about pufa extreme restriction
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@sunsunsun There's this guy Ray Peat you should look into.
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@sunsunsun this might be true, but what the data showed was that you only need like 250-500mg of o3/epa/dha/etc. and you can easily achieve this with ordinary fats like dairy fat which does in fact have pufas but not excess amounts like in seed oils.
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@Cicero multiple reports of ppl who have done extreme pufa restriction and getting skin and hair problems as a result
le b6 deficiency amirite
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@sunsunsun if the problem is b6, just eat beef liver. That is like reccomending eating clay for the nutritional value.
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@zeitgeist woosh
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Anybody here tried Bloo?
Ordered some but there is almost nothing on it outside of X
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@engineer I have not but based on the ingredients, it sounds legit. It has the same ingredients I listed few replies above (the one starting with yoga) + methyne blue and taurin (both beneficial). For those on a tight budget, the DIY version I mentioned is great, though I am interested in the role of methyne blue in the stack. Try it out and inform us about the results.
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@sunsunsun do you remember what those people were eating otherwise? Ray Peat listed "a variety of abnormalities of the hair and skin" among the old reasons doctors had to suspect hypothyroidism. Super low fat diets usually end up low calorie and sometimes low protein too, and I'd expect the thyroid to slow down well before anyone runs short of linoleic acid.
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@thebiooracle the specific case is from someone that raised their own low pufa chickens but only had minimal egg yolks even then and ate liver and even used hydrogenated coconut oil. he said himself and everyone in his family developed issues that resolved after including pufa back in the diet. i dont remember what they did, I think they just added olive oil to their diet.
there’s probably a reasonable amount of pufa that contributes to health from natural foods like nuts and seeds and whatever amount is in some chicken and pork and cold water fish fat. purposefully going out of one’s way to have a near scientific diet to avoid them, or the opposite purposefully eating like a lb of nuts and seeds everyday are both probably not optimal
the counter example is i know a guy who purposefully reccomends pufa from whole foods , telling people to get 50+ grams of pufa from sunflower and hemp per day, who got shingles
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@sunsunsun hydrogenated coconut oil was something Ray Peat used himself. He wrote in an email "Hydrogenated coconut oil doesn't contain any PUFA; I have used larger amounts of that, with no visible effects." Olive oil is mostly oleic acid, so if adding it is what fixed things for that family I'm not sure the PUFA was the part that helped. Do you know what the issues were?
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@Mossy how long was he maintaining these position daily?
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@thebiooracle olive oil has some pufa
idk what relevance rp usung hydeogenated coconut oil is to this topic. he also ate bacon and chicken wings
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@user1 In his words, "no more than a minute".
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