Tips on surviving 24h workshifts / 12h rest (4h sleep) schedule.

LunaticRed

I want to transition from 12h work / 12h rest (4h sleep) schedule to 24h workshifts / 12h rest (4h sleep) schedule to increase my income from 1800$ to 3000$. The job is physical, logistic warehouse. What would be optimal in this situation?
Current drug stack:
Letrozole 1.25mg
Meldonium 500mg
Benfotiamine 25mg
Finasteride 1,25mg
Dutasteride 0,5mg
Celecoxib 200mg
Cilostazol 50mg
Febuxostat 20mg
Menadione 15mg
Magnesium citrate 2g
Calcium ascorbate 500mg
Vitamin E 200IU
Vitamin D 5000IU

Would creatine and incapsulated caffeine be of use?

hawk1

@LunaticRed not sure what some of these in your stack do, but modafinil is used for shit work, narcolepsy, and general wakefulness. might be good 4 u

sunsunsun

#dogoyimreally

rohmilchbubi

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rohmilchbubi

Bright Lights in your working environment ( at least 1000 Lux, 98 CRI and 6500 K)
Modafinil or analoga (old great podcast episode about it )
Sleep Induction: Daridorexant (difficult to get, in your position any physician should prescribe it).
Energy Drinks
Breaks for free and light Movement
Trust your Body, it will adapt to it faster than you think

thebiooracle

@LunaticRed The extra income is a real consideration, but caffeine can't make a physical 24-hour shift on four hours of sleep safe. NIOSH specifically warns that stimulants don't provide the alertness and decision-making ability that adequate sleep does. Feeling more awake isn't the same as having normal judgment around warehouse equipment or on the trip home.

Before looking for another supplement, is there any scope to change the shift pattern or protect a longer sleep window? I'd discuss the schedule and the existing stack with occupational health or a clinician rather than adding wakefulness drugs to make the hours tolerable.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/work-hour-training-for-nurses/longhours/mod6/13.html

zeitgeist

@LunaticRed I understand your choice to work more. Nevertheless, I would probably drop half of these - especially finasteride. Ray Peat wiki literally has an extensive article on the post-finasteride syndrome, there are not many things less Peaty and harmful than this. Moreover, this is not even that controversial, the syndrome is a well-known medical term, not something controversial like paper bag breathing.

I do not know many of these substances, yet I think many of them are harmful. I would definitely add methynele blue, mk4 in high doses and T3. I would also recomment to go through the individual substances offered by dinkov, study them and buy those which are useful.

But what is most important, these substances are accelerators, without proper food intake, you will only increase your cortisole. I would recommend some high quality OJ, if the weather conditions (fridge on site) allow it, milk is also great.

In conclusion, I do not think your approach is right. You should start with the right basics (for example MTB and mk4 is nullified if you eat phosphorous, low gelatine food which will spike your PTH and cause a stress reaction) and only on that stack the supplements.

On a positive note, I think that if you approach your situation right, you may make it work long-term without feeling burnt out/richer.

zeitgeist

@lunaticred Wait, I did not read the title carefully. I only thought you plan on transitioning to 24h shifts, I did not read about the 4h sleep schedule. Is this even possible? Can you not make it work some other way? You mentioned 12h rest, why not sleep for 8 hours and use the rest for eating/traversing? What makes you sleep only for 4 hours if the rest is 12h long?