Any experiences with DHT?
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@Hando-Jin I've tried 11-keto-dht and it made me aggressive and super low estrogen. Same as androsterone but 11 keto takes a lower dose to product those effects.
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Highly anti-inflammatory, quieting to nervous system, calming to mind and generally stabilising to the whole system.
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I'm also curious, can it be dosed orally?
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@Hando-Jin It's pretty awesome. Definitely increases strength. Calms your mind. It can be very pro libido. I suggest taking it with preg and dhea. That being said, the greatest feeling I've achieved metabolically was taking dht along with progesterone.
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haidut needs to release a dht suppplement asap
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@jesse I think its been already made.
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What sort of dosages do people use here?
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@milkgains_bro sadly discontinued
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@angel do you know further details on why etc.? I’m assuming too close to the regulatory line.
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You can buy your own DHT powder and dissolve it in DMSO or Ethanol.
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@milkgains_bro whats a good source
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@hootchy purple panda labs
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Best hormone. DHT > all others.
Clarity, energy, estrogen reduction, decreased inflammation and autoimmune like no other hormone.
It's not magic, but it's damn good.
It's even more helpful when you're actually sick, while T is much more hit-or-miss
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@brightside You should bring your transdermal recipes over from RPF, that was a quality thread. Do you have a current preference atm? I've only ever used pure DMSO.
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@skylark I appreciate it!
I was thinking to do that, but I want to re-write a bunch of it, since my opinions developed and people presented some new information. Plus my writing style can sometimes be a bit too convoluted, so wanted to simplify things a bit.
I'm using only DHT/DMSO, and 3.5% T in ethanol + a bit of hand sanitizer for the IPM and carbomer. If I can get my inflammatory issues under control, and subsequently the aromatase under control, I was curious to run a mini-cycle just for the heck of it.
For that I was debating using either a lotion or an ethanol based liquid, but I would for sure use tons of menthol. I feel like the lotions do draw out the life of the T, but using short ester T would be even more interesting in a lotion. Perhaps once-a-day application would be possible without spiking too hard.
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@brightside very good. I still have a bag micronised T base which I haven’t even tried yet, so I’m going to give one of these recipes a go. I’m not really that fussed about T though, as I find DHT so effective for almost any type of injury/ailment - and I haven’t noticed any suppression dosing up to 30mg, just a subtle and short rebound maybe 24hours after a dose. Do you think supplementing DHT alongside T will have a more stable/constructive effect than T alone?
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What doses are people using? Topical or oral? Thanks
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@angel I believe he no longer advertises it. If you purchase something like Metergoline and ask for 11 Keto DHT(same price) you should get it. I would check with Haidut first.
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@risingfire
What ratio progesterone to dht did you use? I find dht a bit adrenergic at times(I’ve had it raise blood pressure when taking too much). Progesterone would surely be the best complement (antagonizer of this effect) and I was thinking around a 1:5 dht:progesterone ratio but never really settled on one.I think this study explains the blood pressure effect of supraphysiological dht.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2681414/ -
Yeah, same experience here. The estrogen and cortisol antagonism seems to almost perfectly balance out its AR stimulation, so that you don’t get much suppression at lower doses. (like up to the dose you said)
I find that using the T gives me a bit more of a kick and fun mood, but if I had to pick between the two, it would still be DHT.
I would just recommend that if you do use the T, you probably want to do a full replacement dose? That’s what I generally lean towards.