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    S.Holmes @A Former User
    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:13 PM

    @Not_James_Bond
    Dr. P would be apalled. He believed health information should be free to everyone. In fact, as I recall, the fees for his books (I have them all) and newsletter just covered his costs. Just one more breach of his legacy.

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      Verdad
      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

      I have to admit i am very concerned with the new direction that the RPF has taken. It seems to me to be almost cult like now with the anti-vitamin A movement.

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        S.Holmes @Verdad
        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

        @Verdad The new and "improved" RP Forum:1000006384.jpg

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          Verdad @ilovethesea
          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:19 PM

          @ilovethesea This is just a logically absurd statement on so many levels. Ray peat actually lived 9 years longer than the average male lifespan in the US and even if he did not there are many variables that influence lifespan. You can have the "perfect diet" and still not live past 70 or you could have a relatively poor diet and live a lot longer.

          I pointed out to them that many people who eat "toxic dairy" as they now call it live well over 100 and that those in the so called "blue zones" regularly eat dairy but no this has become true cult like mentality. All evidence to be ignored, and just plow on with the anti vitamin A and now basically anti ray peat movement.

          They don't sound any different to me than the vegans or the carnivore diet or any diet that refuses to take on evidence. Really depressing because it has been such a good source of knowledge for me over the years.

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            Verdad @S.Holmes
            last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:21 PM

            @S-Holmes haha it really does seem like it has reached that status. Charlie claiming that the anti-vitamin A movement is part of the great awakening. Next he is going to say that if you eat low vitamin A you will be part of the rapture. It really is sounding absurd.

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              sphenoid
              last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:23 PM

              Not sure where to post these but I did some AI slop prompts of charlie manson and a lion.

              charley3.jpg
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              charley1.jpg
              charley5.jpg
              charley2.png

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                Verdad
                last edited by Verdad Feb 19, 2024, 4:56 PM Feb 19, 2024, 4:55 PM

                @Charlie just posted a new thread and he really seems to have gone off the deep end to me. It really is a shame.

                title; "THE TOXIC RAY PEAT DIET & LIFESTYLE IS KEEPING MANY IN CAPTIVITY...RAY PEAT NEVER OFFERED A WAY OUT"

                Screenshot 2024-02-19 at 16.53.28.png

                All this terminology just sounds very cult like to me. It is the same kind of terminology they all use....we will free you of XYZ if you follow us you will be awakened and better than ever.

                Here is a link if anyone wants to read the post. It really seems like he has abandoned all reason and logic https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-toxic-ray-peat-diet-lifestyle-is-keeping-many-in-captivity-ray-peat-never-offered-a-way-out.52612/

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                  A Former User @sphenoid
                  last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:34 PM

                  @sphenoid Loving your work Sir😉

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                    A Former User @Verdad
                    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:41 PM

                    @Verdad
                    @sphenoid
                    @Regina
                    @S-Holmes

                    Delusional
                    characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgements about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition:

                    based on or having faulty judgement; mistaken

                    Common causes;
                    Stress
                    Alcohol and drug abuse
                    Certain medications

                    Nailed it!😨

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                      ilovethesea
                      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:51 PM

                      More evidence this is a coordinated attack. I found on Ray Peat Reddit there are a couple threads about RPF imploding.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1atv75d/ray_peat_forum_gone_completely_mental/

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1at4clu/what_is_going_on_with_the_ray_peat_forum/

                      There is one user https://www.reddit.com/user/Sweaty-Program-3322/ all over them crusading for low vit A and that “Ray Peat’s ideas don’t work”

                      That person is obviously a plant. No legit organic movement would have people like this coming out of the woodwork at the same time on multiple forums. Do they think we’re really this stupid??

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                        ilovethesea @Peoples
                        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:04 PM

                        @Peoples Don’t know anything about his finances but yes it’s Life Giving Store. For anyone who relies on it for thyroid I saw someone on Twitter recommend this store as a good alternative https://shop.forefronthealth.com/

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                          ilovethesea @sphenoid
                          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:07 PM

                          @sphenoid according to this Garrett is only mid 40s! https://twitter.com/8888chrome8888/status/1759422149427712407/photo/1

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                            S.Holmes @ilovethesea
                            last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:09 PM

                            @ilovethesea 🤯

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                              Regina @Verdad
                              last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:12 PM

                              @Verdad Who needs thyroid when you have adrenaline and cortisol?

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                                Regina @sphenoid
                                last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:13 PM

                                @sphenoid 👏 ♥

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                                  sphenoid @ilovethesea
                                  last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:14 PM

                                  @ilovethesea I saw the reddit post, the user is either an obvious plant or insane. I'd believe either. And I would have guessed mr. smith is in his later 50s early 60s. I understand changing lifestyles later in your may not fully change your facial structure but I mean at least your skin and eyes and hair may be healthy. I have a hard time seeing how he started off any worse, especially compared to the average person who eats slop.

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                                    S.Holmes @A Former User
                                    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:25 PM

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                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:28 PM

                                      New Charlie's post :

                                      https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-toxic-ray-peat-diet-lifestyle-is-keeping-many-in-captivity-ray-peat-never-offered-a-way-out.52612/

                                      He is getting debunked severly

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                                        A Former User @sphenoid
                                        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:31 PM

                                        @sphenoid He has exactly the same claims as Charlie and the same religious beliefs in terms of food, the same terms such as "the Magic 5" to talk about minerals, it's probably Charlie or someone who memorized Charlie's unbased arguments

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                                          A Former User @A Former User
                                          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:34 PM

                                          @Truth Good, it's deserved.

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