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    Kilgore @A Former User
    last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:00 PM

    @questforhealth2 I think you should start using raypeatforum.com .

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      A Former User @Kilgore
      last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:07 PM

      @Kilgore why

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        NotShanalotte @A Former User
        last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:13 PM

        @questforhealth2 Vegan children are often underdeveloped.

        There's something to be said for not growing to tall. I'd like to get back to reading about that, but the few studies I've read indicate health issues the taller someone is than 5'11" or 6'0" depending on the study.

        Personally, I get most of my calories from whole milk, cheese, butter, and potatoes. I have muscle meat when I feel like it, maybe once or twice a day.

        @Kilgore More to the topic, vitamin K2 doses of 15-45mg three times a day is the best guess I have based on the studies I've read. Perhaps 5000 IU vitamin D3 if blood levels indicate it. IME the trick is to get enough calcium which I've never formally measured.

        I'm somewhat older than you and have had catch-up growth of about an inch and a quarter in the last 6 months, but I have used T3 as well so YMMV without it.

        "Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."

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          A Former User @NotShanalotte
          last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:16 PM

          @NotShanalotte

          depends what the parents feed them

          many meat eaters or junk food eaters look like soyboys so its not like meat eating or dairy eating is all there is to it

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            lisan al gaib @A Former User
            last edited by lisan al gaib Jun 22, 2024, 6:20 PM Jun 22, 2024, 6:19 PM

            @questforhealth2 said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG:

            milk will make you short. big growth spike from the hormones in the cow juice then nothing. better be vegan.

            you hear people who drink a lot of milk grow super fast and get collapsed lungs

            vegan children grow slowly

            milk can probably also make you too tall and make you an absolute walking tumour and heart attack waiting to happen from all the smelly growth hormones

            ideal height for man or woman is probably around 6 foot, not less not more. just perfect.

            im going to go sit and watch my potato patch and eat beans

            Cows, elephants, giraffes, camels and blue whales drink milk. Why aren't they short?

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              NotShanalotte @A Former User
              last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:20 PM

              @questforhealth2 No one mentioned junk food, and your response is begging the question anyways. Your perspective could be valuable, but you're taking things too personally. I'm not taking moderator action, I'm just asking you to consider what and how you're saying it.

              In your other topic you're wondering about social isolation, and my response would be, like anything else, "practice."

              "Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."

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                A Former User @NotShanalotte
                last edited by A Former User Jun 22, 2024, 6:36 PM Jun 22, 2024, 6:36 PM

                @NotShanalotte

                i do not take anything personally. i feel pretty detached currently

                there is a lot of underdeveloped children that eat a lot of meat. i see this myself where i live

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                  A Former User @lisan al gaib
                  last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 6:43 PM

                  @lisan-al-gaib

                  milk is meant for babies not adults. milk is meant to make a baby animal grow fast. humans are the only ones that drink milk past a certain life stage

                  I wonder if people would change their mind if they stopped milk for a while and went back to it

                  if we think about how it is meant to cause growth what if someone has a tumour. that tumour is going to grow very fast. so we can probably see how milk can cause cancer to get worse

                  many problems associated with animal products

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                    lisan al gaib @A Former User
                    last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 7:10 PM

                    @questforhealth2 said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG:

                    @lisan-al-gaib

                    milk is meant for babies not adults. milk is meant to make a baby animal grow fast. humans are the only ones that drink milk past a certain life stage

                    I wonder if people would change their mind if they stopped milk for a while and went back to it

                    if we think about how it is meant to cause growth what if someone has a tumour. that tumour is going to grow very fast. so we can probably see how milk can cause cancer to get worse

                    many problems associated with animal products

                    According to some internet sources, orangutans drink milk up to the age of 7/9, so they're not babies.

                    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/17/528776636/orangutan-moms-are-the-primate-champs-of-breast-feeding

                    Many animals continue to grow long after stopping milk, for decades, and with seasonal fluctuations, without drinking milk, growth is not only caused by milk, and I have seen no evidence that growth necessarily increases the growth of an existing tumor, have you?

                    Yes, animal products can contribute to symptoms, but so can plants, and no less so.

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                      A Former User @lisan al gaib
                      last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 7:14 PM

                      @lisan-al-gaib

                      that does make sense. but the orangutan drinks orangutan milk not cow milk. Cow milk makes me smell very bad. I think maybe camel milk might be good or goat milk potentially

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                        lisan al gaib @A Former User
                        last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 7:22 PM

                        @questforhealth2 said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG:

                        @lisan-al-gaib

                        that does make sense. but the orangutan drinks orangutan milk not cow milk. Cow milk makes me smell very bad. I think maybe camel milk might be good or goat milk potentially

                        Is it raw? I've noticed a difference recently in terms of scent between raw and pasteurized milk, the raw milk I drink contributes to a pleasant armpit scent, the pasteurized milk I drink contributes to an unpleasant armpit scent

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                          A Former User @lisan al gaib
                          last edited by A Former User Jun 22, 2024, 10:49 PM Jun 22, 2024, 10:40 PM

                          @lisan-al-gaib i tried even raw

                          some people probably can drink milk raw or pasteurised or whatever. but not for me.

                          im pretty sure plant based is the best way to reach the highest energy state. Im not sure what it is but all animal products feel like they lower energy and drive to accomplish goals.

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                            bot-mod @Kilgore
                            last edited by Jun 23, 2024, 10:47 AM

                            @Kilgore said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                            @questforhealth2 I think you should start using raypeatforum.com .

                            I find the expression of all of them quite fascinatingly uniform. Like its a wave on the sea. And they're tired of swimming.

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                              bot-mod
                              last edited by Jun 23, 2024, 10:50 AM

                              @questforhealth2

                              I'm better than fine with meat and dairy, and a lot of people seem to be. If you want to describe your own experience that's fine. But the tone you're taking here isn't the way to do that.

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                                A Former User @bot-mod
                                last edited by A Former User Jun 23, 2024, 11:11 AM Jun 23, 2024, 11:09 AM

                                @ThinPicking

                                I don't understand

                                the information I share is for good, I know for a fact people would enjoy higher body temperatures and more drive on plant based diets

                                plant foods raise dopamine which makes it easier to be driven and achieve goals.

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                                  bot-mod @A Former User
                                  last edited by Jun 23, 2024, 11:34 AM

                                  @questforhealth2 said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                  I don't understand

                                  Maybe you need more time, reflection and interaction.

                                  @questforhealth2 said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                  I know for a fact

                                  Maybe you (think you) do. But you're not going to convince anyone without patience, good communication and evidence.

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                                    A Former User @bot-mod
                                    last edited by Jun 23, 2024, 11:41 AM

                                    @ThinPicking

                                    I am always patient

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                                      GreekDemiGod @bot-mod
                                      last edited by Jun 25, 2024, 8:51 AM

                                      @ThinPicking how’s your cholesterol/ lipid panel? I have a theory that those who get very bad lipid numbers on meat and dairy based diet are better of eating high carb, high plant based, and those who not, are better with higher fats and protein in their diets.

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                                        bot-mod @GreekDemiGod
                                        last edited by Jun 25, 2024, 10:59 PM

                                        @GreekDemiGod said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                        how’s your cholesterol/ lipid panel?

                                        I haven't had one in years but probably should. For the questionable amount of butter I'm eating sometimes. And the rest.

                                        I just. Feel alright most of the time. And don't have an issue doing my job, finding other value in it, and living outside of it. But that could turn, quickly.

                                        @GreekDemiGod said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                        I have a theory that those who get very bad lipid numbers on meat and dairy based diet are better of eating high carb, high plant based, and those who not, are better with higher fats and protein in their diets.

                                        Sounds good, walk with it. And maybe there's a dollar proxy for a blood panel. Beside the self description or close observance of a subject.

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                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by A Former User Jun 26, 2024, 10:25 PM Jun 26, 2024, 10:20 PM

                                          This thread makes me wonder

                                          What do the Peat community think might be a good drug in the meantime to help with ADHD symtpoms like being too blunt, not thinking before speaking etc

                                          that comes with less side effects?

                                          would T3 be worth trying possibly? or do I just need to wait it out with the mineral supplements and keep taking them. im really on an upward slope but not there yet

                                          i know various minerals are important for the thyroid gland to work and my feet are getting warmer...

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