Help with EU Sources
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I'm surprised there isn't already a global supplement library site for anyone to view their desired products' available sources, with user input to facilitate information compiling. Any Peatgrammer up for the task?
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@voldtzeig I'm getting Life Extension Super K on Danny's recommendation
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Also, just a heads-up for people in Spain. my Progest-E was denied at customs.
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@edouard I use this Dutch company, pretty old and known company and its relatively cheap: https://www.deonlinedrogist.nl/jacob-hooy-gelatinepoeder-500gr-p-22140.html?channable=00de4f696400323231343083&cross=0&pid=22140&gQT=1
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Deuspower.shop is where i purchase my T3 and T4 (to Sweden). Ships without any issues.
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Bought from bgpharmadrugs.com Tiromel(T3) and Bitiron(T3+T4) received, looks legit. But the qrcode and serial numbers are marked over...
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@AL They are fake. He marks the QR code and Serial numbers with a pen, so you can't scan them on a certain turkish medicine verification app (the name is in a foreign language), and verify if the medication is real or counterfeit.
I have probbaly bought close to 30 packs of Tiromel and Bitiron combined from him, before he started to mark out the QR codes - when I scanned their QR codes ALL of them were not registered batches and were therefore fake.
Save yourself hundreds of dollars and stay away from Turkish meds - generally, if you see a very popular medicine being sold for low prices, it is too good to be true.
A small sample of my fake thyroid collection....
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@alfredoolivas I've taken Tiromel as well and my experience is Cynomel is much cleaner.
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@alfredoolivas Coming in with some interesting info again,... I will try scanning it. What's the app?
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@CO3
İlaç Takip Sistemi (İTS) Mobil
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@alfredoolivas great I'll check it out when I get home. Thanks
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@alfredoolivas @CO3 I don't think the app is working. It always fails for me.
İlaç Takip Sistemi (İTS) Mobil
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tr.gov.saglik.itsmobil&hl=en_ZA
İlaç Fiyatı
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilacfiyati.app -
@AL It works for me. It takes a while for it to check the QR code. Tiromel from BG drugs:
Upload a clear image of the QR code if you would like me to scan something, but you already mentioned the QR codes had been vandalised. -
@alfredoolivas bro that app doesnt work
i'm turkish and i get tiromel directly from pharmacy -- it's OTC. and i get the same error on that app
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@yeyo12 That means it is fake. The app was developed by the Turkish government and has access to the database of every batch of every approved medicine in your country. The QR code of your product doesn’t match that of any registered batch.
Have you considered if the pharmacy is a licensed pharmacy ? Don’t take it up with us, you should go back to your pharmacy and see why your medicines aren’t authentic - that’s literally the whole point of why the app was developed in your country! You can easily authenticate the legitimacy of your product with another pharmacist.
Your logic is - the pharmacy must be authentic and law binding, therefore my medicine must be real to! This doesn’t happen in the real world. Pharmacies can do illegal things too. Counterfeit goods are a massive issue in Turkey, as seen by our experiences in this thread.
“Recently in Turkey, a counterfeit cancer drug has been realized from its package and it was reported that 95 patients did not get the treatment they sup- posed”
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@alfredoolivas they're not updating the database as far as i know.
that app is just an old news
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@yeyo12 How do you know? "It" still isn't old news. It's a whole company that has advanced Turkey's digital healthcare system, and the healthcare system relies on it.
Their website was updated less than a month ago. They regularly update their website with news and blog posts, and helped with recent events such as earthquakes."İTS operates within a large ecosystem that includes more than 30,000 pharmacies, 425 manufacturers, 711 pharmaceutical wholesalers, more than 20,000 consumption centers, 58 exporters and 50 reimbursement institutions . This strong infrastructure protects patient safety and market integrity by providing complete tracking and monitoring at every stage of the pharmaceutical supply chain. This innovative system developed by Tiga is also being implemented at the national level in two different countries outside of Turkey. Recognized internationally, İTS has proven its global effectiveness in terms of drug safety, transparency and digital transformation in healthcare logistics by winning the United Nations (UN) World Information Society Summit (WSIS) Champion e-Health Project Award twice."
https://its.tiga.com.tr/haberler/
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@alfredoolivas Bro I just tested 6 different drugs on this app and all of them gave the same results.
Unless they're all fake, which I know they're not because for example, exemestane and proplanolol do work and I can feel them, this app is just broken.
In Turkey, pharmacies are everywhere and they're all licensed and it's super easy to get the drugs. I'm not saying they are NOT fake 100% but if they are, the whole country must've been dead by now lol.
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@yeyo12 Counterfeit drugs can still have the active ingredient in them. They can be perfectly safe to consume, whilst being counterfeit.
So you liked the effects of the drugs and therefore they aren’t counterfeit? I have bought Tiromel, Bitiron, Exemstane and Proviron from Turkey, and I liked all them - but they were all fake.
I know pharmacies have to be licensed but that doesn’t mean some won’t break the law and sell counterfeit medicines. Instead of discussing this with me, you should be discussing with your local health care system, as this app is funded by and works with the government. They will provide you information about the app.
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@alfredoolivas How do you know they were all fake? Just by that app?
I'm not gonna do it obviously, but if I were to scan all the freaking drugs in my house + family house, I know they're all giving the same results on this app that NO ONE knows about and uses btw.
And if that's the case, it's probably case for everyone in this small town that I'm living in. And you're saying, in this small town everyone is getting and using and are treated by fake drugs?
That's just nonsense, sorry.
