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    BIOHACKING by Nathan Hatch, "F*** Portion Control"

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      S.Holmes @yerrag
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      @yerrag I do nothing simply because a guru said to do it. I try things and if they work I continue. If they don't work, I move on. Our recovering metabolism proves this works for us. I can't speak for anyone else. Nothing else was helping and I suspect many others find themselves with swinging or low temperatures. My primary goal was to raise my temp/metabolism by any means possible. So far so good.

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        yerrag @S.Holmes
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        @S-Holmes Great. I don't remember though specifically taegetting you for following a guru. If you had taken it that way, I apologize. Many people like gurus to do the thinking for them. In some ways, I can be like that. Especially when that guru has establishes a lot of credibility with me.

        The reason I subscribe to Ray's newsletters is one example of that. But Ray has cleared the bar for me, though I acknowledge he is human and can be wrong.

        But Ray isn't bellicose like the Garrett thug. But I needed to point out that grazing is not applicable to all people, and Nathan, according to you, recommend everyone practice grazing.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          S.Holmes @yerrag
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          @yerrag Many of Nathan's strategies are for the metabolically challenged. That would be many, if not most people. Some will not need to follow his advice, but I'm guessing most who are on health forums are looking for solutions to their health issues.

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            yerrag @S.Holmes
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            @S-Holmes

            His advice may be for the metabolically challenged, but am I wrong to think that he does little to disabuse the notion that the need to graze is merely a coping mechanism to deal with poor blood sugar regulation out of being in a metabolically challenged state? Many people would just be content to stay that way because they think they are naturally disposed to be that way, and so they don't seek a real solution anymore and stay sub-optimal where health is concerned. Thus, they are unaware of their own false helplessness.

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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              S.Holmes @yerrag
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              @yerrag People make a lot of assumptions about Nathan's advice. I can't explain everything in bits and pieces that took him 500 pages of writing to explain.

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                yerrag @S.Holmes
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                @S-Holmes My bad. My mistake is to assume based on what you said about him. Since you've read him fully, you must know how to put his statements in the fully rounded context, and not in sound bites.

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  S.Holmes @yerrag
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                  @yerrag I started this thread to get feedback from others who have tried his methods. Not too interested in trying to sell people on them. I just really don't have time. I've spent all day (week actually) working to get petitions signed and people to commit to not signing leases turning my county into a wind turbine nightmare. I'll be working on this until we lose or they're run out of town. But that's another story

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                    yerrag @S.Holmes
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                    I hope you can make things work out and get the wind turbines from destroying your way of life, especially when moving away from the city to get some peace and quiet is your goal.

                    Nathan doesn't get everything right. No one does, not even Ray. I don't want to troll anyone least of all you, nor keep you from your priorities, but I had to say something about what you shared about Nathan's view on grazing. I've also said enough about it. If you prefer not to be bothered about it, I will respect that.

                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                      @S-Holmes said in BIOHACKING by Nathan Hatch, "F*** Portion Control":

                      I've spent all day (week actually) working to get petitions signed and people to commit to not signing leases turning my county into a wind turbine nightmare. I'll be working on this until we lose or they're run out of town.

                      Bullshit will only change form until the emperors balls are cut off. It's possible we all harbour an inherent subconscious aversion to doing this.

                      @ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                      https://www.movetoamend.org/resolutions-in-support

                      (That's a campaign, not the campaign. Simply talking about it will probably do the trick.)

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                        S.Holmes @yerrag
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                        @yerrag The turbines kill so many birds and bats. They're making people sick and causing farm animals to die. They shed pfas from blades that spin at speeds of 100 mph, and people need to learn about the dangers of "infrasound." NO ONE should be within 3 miles of those things. People want to move but their property values plummet so they're sick, broke, and stuck.

                        I do respect your opinions and experience, but will need to table theorizing about the viability of his strategies. I would however still like to hear from others who have read his book and tried out his recommendations.

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