Beard growth?
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@Santosh Have you tried applying T or DHT locally to the beard area?
I have been doing this some time and have seen more terminal hairs, but it is somewhat slow progress. I saw the most beard growth from permanently cutting out gluten from my diet (no cheating ever). However I think I am celiac or have NGCS so I doubt everyone will get the same effects from removing gluten.
Minoxidil is also effective but gives me terrible side effects,
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@Cristiano To answer your question, no I don't think DHEA will help much at all.
There is some evidence that topical testosterone (and presumably also DHT) applied to the beard stimulates vellus to terminal hair conversion.
Haidut posted a study where an old grandma used topical T on her face for months and grew a "beard". There's also this study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17852629/. Maybe topical testosterone or DHT combined with dermarolling, applied consistently over years, could be a good way to get a thicker beard.
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gonna go against the peater consensus and say just do topical minoxidil on problem areas of your beard. minoxidil beard gains are permanent which means you can stop after the hairs become dark and terminal.
yeah you could waste your time on topical dht but theres very little before and afters of topical dht beards whereas minoxidil has a lot of before and after pics on r/minoxidilbeards. plus youre going to have to get dht powder from some Chinese lab which could be contaminated with who knows what unless you want to get it tested.
if getting a thick sexy beard will improve your quality of life and confidence by a big margin then just do topical minox 5% foam for 6 months. a little bit of topical nitric oxide never killed nobody especially if youre in good health.
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@Chud said in Beard growth?:
gonna go against the peater consensus and say just do topical minoxidil on problem areas of your beard. minoxidil beard gains are permanent which means you can stop after the hairs become dark and terminal.
yeah you could waste your time on topical dht but theres very little before and afters of topical dht beards whereas minoxidil has a lot of before and after pics on r/minoxidilbeards. plus youre going to have to get dht powder from some Chinese lab which could be contaminated with who knows what unless you want to get it tested.
if getting a thick sexy beard will improve your quality of life and confidence by a big margin then just do topical minox 5% foam for 6 months. a little bit of topical nitric oxide never killed nobody especially if youre in good health.
better yet, combine topical dht with minoxidil maybe add light dermstamping once a week to increase absorption.
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zoomer grows beard in 2 months on topical minox
https://youtube.com/shorts/djoyuWt36WY?si=pgB9tSvJOxmyvnUw -
Fwiw I am now spamming topical caffeine 100mg in alcohol
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@Chud said in Beard growth?:
gonna go against the peater consensus and say just do topical minoxidil on problem areas of your beard. minoxidil beard gains are permanent which means you can stop after the hairs become dark and terminal.
yeah you could waste your time on topical dht but theres very little before and afters of topical dht beards whereas minoxidil has a lot of before and after pics on r/minoxidilbeards. plus youre going to have to get dht powder from some Chinese lab which could be contaminated with who knows what unless you want to get it tested.
if getting a thick sexy beard will improve your quality of life and confidence by a big margin then just do topical minox 5% foam for 6 months. a little bit of topical nitric oxide never killed nobody especially if youre in good health.
Terrible advice.
Topical Minoxidil will only work for 40% of men, while oral Minoxidil will work for 100% of men. This is because not everyone has the enzyme sulfotransferase in their skin, but everyone has it in their liver.Sulfotransferase is required to turn Minoxidil into its active form, Minoxidil sulfate.
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@Santosh
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@Chud Yes. From what I've read, hypertrichosis is common with oral minox usage. I guess it depends on how much hair you're looking to grow.
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@PeatPioneer PPL seems to be a common vendor around these parts. I ordered from them like 4 years ago and thought their DHT was solid. But I've seen some people questioning their reputation as of late, so idk maybe the quality of service has declined. You could also order premade formulas from alphagels via email. But all their stuff is pre-dissolved in DMSO. If you're worried about heavy metal contamination, I would think DMSO products are worse than raws, but that's just my 2 cents.
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@Mulloch94 said in Beard growth?:
If you're worried about heavy metal contamination, I would think DMSO products are worse than raws, but that's just my 2 cents.
A quick word of advice, if you plan on doing hormones from any underground vendor, I recommend getting on vitamin E and cilantro extract to chelate contaminants. There's never that "quality control" that exists with legitimate compounding pharmacies. Even if one batch you ordered was all good, the next one might not be so good.
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@Mulloch94 said in Beard growth?:
@PeatPioneer PPL [...] so idk maybe the quality of service has declined.
Wrong
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@Santosh That's not really my assessment, like I said the one time I ordered from them I got good stuff. But it was several years ago. Take it up with the people having bad (recent) experiences with them.
I will say one thing, in their defense, and really any vendor's defense. I expect labs to get rudimentary things like T base and DHT base right. If they can't, then they're completely untrustworthy.
Those are not difficult items to get right. It's not like you're ordering some pre-made solution in oil that could be sterilized improperly. And it's not like you're ordering oxandrolone, or some other steroid that's very hard to get uncut.
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@Mulloch94 said in Beard growth?:
@Santosh That's not really my assessment, like I said the one time I ordered from them I got good stuff. But it was several years ago. Take it up with the people having bad (recent) experiences with them.
I will say one thing, in their defense, and really any vendor's defense. I expect labs to get rudimentary things like T base and DHT base right. If they can't, then they're completely untrustworthy.
Those are not difficult items to get right. It's not like you're ordering some pre-made solution in oil that could be sterilized improperly. And it's not like you're ordering oxandrolone, or some other steroid that's very hard to get uncut.
What credit do you give to people randomly commenting that their delivery was late or that they got scammed without any further explanation on what the scam was exactly about.
I mean precisely. I need third party lab tests, the name of the compound they ordered, the name of the compound they actually received, the purity percentage.
People severly lack discipline and precision.
I test every single batch I receive from PPL. I order 1000€ worth of raw powders from them every three months, including exotic steroids that are usually faked. Every single one of them is exactly what I ordered and above 98% purity.
I couldn't care less about promoting them, it's just that I found a trustworthy vendor that constantly delivers and I can't be bothered trying another one.
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@Santosh said in Beard growth?:
What credit do you give to people randomly commenting that their delivery was late or that they got scammed without any further explanation on what the scam was exactly about.
Well if it were one or two hecklers I wouldn't give any credence to it at all. But it appears there's more than that. And it's cross-platform, meaning they've gotten complaints on more than one forum. If it is a smear campaign, then it's highly coordinated. And to what end?
@Santosh said in Beard growth?:
I mean precisely. I need third party lab tests, the name of the compound they ordered, the name of the compound they actually received, the purity percentage.
There was a guy on the MESO-Rx forum who went into detail about getting shipped the wrong thing. Worse than that, apparently the number on his bag matched what he was suppose to get, but the actual contents were something else. He was taking it but he quickly realized something was wrong.