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    • DavidPSD
      DavidPS
      last edited by

      The Borax Conspiracy

      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
      ☂️

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      • BioEclecticB
        BioEclectic
        last edited by BioEclectic

        The late Ted from Bangkok counseled many to take Boron a few days a week, and to take short breaks from it regularly. Pretty sure most of his Boron info is still posted at the Earth Clinic forum.

        Edit: here's some of Ted's info:
        https://www.earthclinic.com/search.php?search=Boron&r=&ps=1&rfs=1&qa=1&ts=1

        Here's an interesting post:
        How Borax Can Help Alleviate Arthritis Symptoms and More
        snip:
        *Borax is a natural remedy that can effectively treat various types of arthritis and joint problems. It's a low-cost and straightforward solution that can help alleviate symptoms of osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, and more.

        Borax is a mineral compound used for medicinal purposes for centuries. It contains boron, which has anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving properties, making it an effective natural remedy for arthritis.*

        Here's an old archived Health and Longevity newsletter article titled Boron for Better Bones

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        • BioEclecticB
          BioEclectic
          last edited by BioEclectic

          Take the following with a grain of salt as commercial interests may be involved, or simply not properly researched for all i know ...

          A supposedly more therapeutic form of Boron, Calcium Fructoborate, CaFB, just one of many sugar borates.

          • Calcium Fructoborate: a novel nutrient for Bone & Joints
          • Calcium Fructoborate Kills Breast Cancer Cells​
          • Calcium Fructoborate Helps Symptoms of Osteoarthritis
          • The Treatment of Osteoporosis with Calcium Fructoborate
          • Calcium Fructoborate Lowers Inflammatory Nitric Oxide and IL-6.
          • Calcium Fructoborate Quiets Inflammatory Neutrophils
          • Calcium Fructoborate as an Antioxidant
          • Calcium Fructoborate Promotes Hormone Balance

          I've seen it relatively inexpensive in the past at Amazon by searching directly for Calcium Fructoborate or using a trademark name "Fruitex-B".

          Edit:

          Dr Hesslink (PDF):
          The Fructoborates: part of a family of naturally ocurring sugar complexes, biochemistry, physiology, and impact on human health - review (definitely read the introduction page at the very least)

          • Index of Dr Hesslinks other Boron articles.
          • I guess calcium is not necessary for a fructoborate to exist, and that there are multiple types, then there are also glucoborates.

          Edit: i know i can give @Amazoniac credit for some or most of these links. An interesting topic imo, will revisit.

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          • b1B
            b1 @BioEclectic
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            @BioEclectic
            On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
            It may be because I'm not in USA.

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            • BioEclecticB
              BioEclectic @b1
              last edited by BioEclectic

              @b1 said in Boron supplements:

              @BioEclectic
              On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
              It may be because I'm not in USA

              Meaning, you cannot find any form of Boron that doesn't include the additional minerals, or were you specifically searching for CaFB?

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              • b1B
                b1 @BioEclectic
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                • b1B
                  b1 @BioEclectic
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                  @BioEclectic
                  When I look up calcium fructoborate and the branded one. I can find other boron supplements though.

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio
                    last edited by Mauritio

                    Raisins are pretty good sources of boron averaging about 2mg/100mg. If you can find low PUFA ,sun dried ones. Should be good !

                    Raisins also have benefits on intestines, increasing transit speed and SCFA in the stool.
                    125g raisins/day decreased the transit time from 42h to 28h! That's a huge benefit.
                    I notice lessened constipation from raisins as well.

                    "Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar appear to be good stool softeners and to shorten intestinal transit time, although the fibre in sun-dried raisins has the added benefit of increasing faecal weight. Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar modulate the composition of faecal bile acids and SCFA in a way that has potential health benefits."

                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13129449/

                    Dare to think.

                    My X:
                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    • MauritioM
                      Mauritio
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                      Boron lowers PTH and cortisol, while increasing vitamin D and osteocalcin in this animal study.
                      Osteocalcin is anabolic and androgenic . Just do quick search on it , it has some interesting pro-metabolic properties.

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32739828/

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      • MauritioM
                        Mauritio
                        last edited by Mauritio

                        This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
                        I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
                        It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

                        https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

                        Dare to think.

                        My X:
                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                        • LejebocaL
                          Lejeboca @Mauritio
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                          @Mauritio
                          Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

                          "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

                          -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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                          • LejebocaL
                            Lejeboca @b1
                            last edited by Lejeboca

                            @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                            I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

                            Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

                            Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

                            05/2024 -- Hair                                   05/2023 -- Hair 
                            

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                              Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
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                              How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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