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    BioEclectic
    last edited by BioEclectic Apr 18, 2024, 11:34 PM Apr 16, 2024, 9:38 PM

    Take the following with a grain of salt as commercial interests may be involved, or simply not properly researched for all i know ...

    A supposedly more therapeutic form of Boron, Calcium Fructoborate, CaFB, just one of many sugar borates.

    • Calcium Fructoborate: a novel nutrient for Bone & Joints
    • Calcium Fructoborate Kills Breast Cancer Cells​
    • Calcium Fructoborate Helps Symptoms of Osteoarthritis
    • The Treatment of Osteoporosis with Calcium Fructoborate
    • Calcium Fructoborate Lowers Inflammatory Nitric Oxide and IL-6.
    • Calcium Fructoborate Quiets Inflammatory Neutrophils
    • Calcium Fructoborate as an Antioxidant
    • Calcium Fructoborate Promotes Hormone Balance

    I've seen it relatively inexpensive in the past at Amazon by searching directly for Calcium Fructoborate or using a trademark name "Fruitex-B".

    Edit:

    Dr Hesslink (PDF):
    The Fructoborates: part of a family of naturally ocurring sugar complexes, biochemistry, physiology, and impact on human health - review (definitely read the introduction page at the very least)

    • Index of Dr Hesslinks other Boron articles.
    • I guess calcium is not necessary for a fructoborate to exist, and that there are multiple types, then there are also glucoborates.

    Edit: i know i can give @Amazoniac credit for some or most of these links. An interesting topic imo, will revisit.

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      b1 @BioEclectic
      last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 11:19 PM

      @BioEclectic
      On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
      It may be because I'm not in USA.

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        BioEclectic @b1
        last edited by BioEclectic Apr 17, 2024, 3:35 AM Apr 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

        @b1 said in Boron supplements:

        @BioEclectic
        On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
        It may be because I'm not in USA

        Meaning, you cannot find any form of Boron that doesn't include the additional minerals, or were you specifically searching for CaFB?

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          b1 @BioEclectic
          last edited by Apr 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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            b1 @BioEclectic
            last edited by Apr 17, 2024, 9:22 AM

            @BioEclectic
            When I look up calcium fructoborate and the branded one. I can find other boron supplements though.

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              Mauritio
              last edited by Mauritio Nov 22, 2024, 4:57 PM Nov 22, 2024, 3:20 PM

              Raisins are pretty good sources of boron averaging about 2mg/100mg. If you can find low PUFA ,sun dried ones. Should be good !

              Raisins also have benefits on intestines, increasing transit speed and SCFA in the stool.
              125g raisins/day decreased the transit time from 42h to 28h! That's a huge benefit.
              I notice lessened constipation from raisins as well.

              "Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar appear to be good stool softeners and to shorten intestinal transit time, although the fibre in sun-dried raisins has the added benefit of increasing faecal weight. Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar modulate the composition of faecal bile acids and SCFA in a way that has potential health benefits."

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13129449/

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                Mauritio
                last edited by Nov 22, 2024, 3:39 PM

                Boron lowers PTH and cortisol, while increasing vitamin D and osteocalcin in this animal study.
                Osteocalcin is anabolic and androgenic . Just do quick search on it , it has some interesting pro-metabolic properties.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32739828/

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  Mauritio
                  last edited by Mauritio Nov 22, 2024, 4:19 PM Nov 22, 2024, 4:14 PM

                  This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
                  I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
                  It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

                  https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    Lejeboca @Mauritio
                    last edited by Nov 28, 2024, 3:16 AM

                    @Mauritio
                    Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

                    "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

                    -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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                      Lejeboca @b1
                      last edited by Lejeboca Nov 28, 2024, 3:31 AM Nov 28, 2024, 3:31 AM

                      @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                      I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

                      Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

                      Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

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                        Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
                        last edited by Jan 18, 2025, 1:36 PM

                        How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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