Whats worth knowing about structured water / magnetized water?
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@cs3000
increased exercise performance by increasing liver glycogen storage https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8153701/In an abstract, Chen et al. (2005) provided by gavage 0.5 mL of 0, 33.3% or 100% of a stabilized SW product to mice (n = 14 treatment and 14 controls) for 30 d.
Mice normally drink 4 to 6 mL/d, and a 25-g mouse has a maximum stomach volume of 0.5 mL. Before provided SW, and after 30 d, the mice performed a swim endurance test.
Compared to baseline and a control group that did not receive SW, mice that were given SW increased swim duration from 16 ± 8 to 24 ± 10 min (33.3% SW; P <0.05) and to 38 ± 30 min (100% SW). The authors correlated increased swim time with increased pre-exercise liver glycogen stores g/100 g; control: 41 ± 12 vs. 33.3 % SW: 65 ± 20 (P < 0.002 compared with control) and 100% SW: 67±16 (P < 0.0002 compared with control) in a separate group of mice treated the same way except for no exercise.
It was concluded that providing 3% to 10% of the daily water intake in the form of SW was able to increase liver glycogen content and increase swim duration.they called it "clustered water" (patented product study tho) https://sponet.de/Record/4011042
(apparently the change in structure from using magnets only lasts an hour or so outside the body? but maybe some ways to extend this)
Physical chemists are well aware of water’s mysterious nature1 and the many different forms of water clusters2 due to hydrogen bonding.3 Very little about water clusters in bulk phase (i.e. water not at the surface or edges of another material) is understood.4 In fact, it is considered to be one of the unsolved problems in chemistry.5 These clusters have been experimentally detected6-8 or predicted from theoretical computational models in bulk liquid water.9-11 [https://molecularhydrogeninstitute.org/microclustering-the-making-of-a-myth-part-1-facts-claims-and-history/]
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Just from personal experience, I soak my feet at night in structured water. Before doing this I had all the hallmarks of hypothyroidism in my skin, (dry, cracked, peeling). I now have perfect skin on my feet, (and the structured water also seems to positively affect the rest of my skin as well, (simply by soaking my feet).
It also reduces end of the day fatigue, and typically allows me to make my evenings more active, (finish projects instead of watching tv, clean up, etc). Having now experienced T3, I’d say the effects are similar.
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@evan-hinkle interesting, what are you using to structure it?
"the flow of electrons is the basic thing that structures water. when i talk about energy and structure, im thinking about primarily first of all the fine layers of water adjoining protein and fat in cells, and thats created and maintained by the flow of electrons mostly from glucose to oxygen through the various catalysts.
and when thats interrupted, when oxygen isnt able to keep pulling the electrons and this flow of electrons that generates the structure just like if you stir a pot of spaghetti all the strings line up in certain direction , that sort of thing is what happens microscopically the energy flow generates structure and that has all of the consequences of ... a german researcher named Andre Sommer has been doing extremely interesting researching showing red light itself organizes the structure of water , " -
@cs3000 I use a few different methods, (a red light device, a Somavedic, and a Natural Action Technologies funnel). Primarily I use the Natural Action Technologies funnel. I also have a whole home water structuring unit attached to my water line, (that’s from Greenfield Water).
Each of these methods gives a great end result on the water.
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@evan-hinkle I'm looking at the greenfield water structuring units for my house and garden hose (to water my livestock). Did you have any concern about the silicone balls in the units? I'm still learning about water structuring, but generally avoid silicone.
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@Sippy I haven’t had any issues with my two units personally. I don’t know what to really believe as far as the science goes, but my experience with the structured water is really unbelievable. According to the “science” even casing the structuring device in lousy plastic would not matter, because the vortexing of the water enhances the energy field of the water, (strengthening Pollak’s exclusion zone) keeping the water intact within its cellular boundaries, and excluding all else from within the water.
The most impressive reason why I’m inclined to believe this is my small kiddie pool. As we know kids drag dirt and grass into their wading pools all the time. In 24, but certainly 72 hours a kiddie pool becomes a disgusting stew of mud and decomposed grass. I fill the pool with structured water and I can keep the water pristine for three days, (of course I use a skimmer to remove floating - but fully intact - blades of grass). If I fill the pool with structured water and keep a water structuring unit in the pool, I can easily keep the water in the pool for a week, (and ultimately I drain it not because it’s dirty, but because I can’t believe it could still be clean, and yet, it is). The grasses do not deteriorate in the water, they simply float. Any dirt remains intact and simply sinks to the bottom of the pool, it does not muddy the water.
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@evan-hinkle thanks for your reply. I want to get a system for my tiny one room cabin that has one sink and a bathtub and another for an outdoor hydrant/ hose to draw buckets of water for my livestock. I'm looking at Greenfield and Natural Action Technologies. Would you recommend one over the other?
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I think that one of the benefits of the bioenergetic perspective is that there are certain unifying principles that explain why certain substances or effects are beneficial and others are not. Among those principles is that whatever can afford the cell increased stability is of benefit to it. Thus, saturated fats, gelatin, niacinamide, etc. can be thought to be of benefit partly because they simply make the cell more lipophilic and less hydrophilic.
So, when it comes to liquid vs structured water, it should be clear that the structured water is the more beneficial, because it increases the stability of the cell.
You can even do this experiment at home: Dissolve a tablespoon or so of collagen protein and niacinamide in a few oz of water and compare that to water without anything extra dissolved in it. The one with the protein and niacinamide will be much more gel-like than the other.
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@Sippy oh man, what a question. They are both fantastic really. What I did was get a smaller device from both companies before pulling the trigger. Ultimately I went with Greenfield because the charcoal medium lasts 10 years with their regeneration material, (added annually) and I was able to get a system that would cover both my house and my orchard, (16 fruit trees, not to mention potatoes, corn, and cucumbers) at a better price.
Both are great companies whose products I have used with great success. If you have any specific questions about your needs I’ve had good interactions with both companies. Perhaps you should reach out?
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The presence of structured water is so important to keeping our cells stable and working well. This is evident in structured water providing a barrier in the boundary layers that separates the cell from the extracellular environment. This layer is what conventional medicine considers the cell membrane.
An example of structured water at work is in the presence of a gel like layer that lines the intima of our capillaries, where our red blood cells flow and delivers to our organs nutrients. Structured water makes this layer possible, which in turn makes it much easier for blood to flow through the very narrow lumen in capillaries, where the red blood cells practically have to squeeze through to deliver nutrients to cell, tissues, and organs, and to transports wastes out of these cells.
How much gel-like this layer is depends on how we keep the body as a whole functioning well with us providing it with good conditions and nutrients and free as much from toxins and infections.
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@evan-hinkle I called Greenfield and the woman I spoke with was actually very unhelpful. Basically didn't want to get into any recommendations for my specific situation since they are no longer doing whole house systems for well water. I'm going to try to call again on Monday and hopefully get someone else.
Can I ask what your whole house system consists of and if you are on well water? Do you filter it as well as structure it? I haven't had my well tested in a few years, but it has always tested pretty clean in the past. The woman from Greenfield was recommending their 5 stage filter and couldn't tell me the difference between that one and the 4 stage filter. I live in a tiny one room cabin with less than 50 ft of copper pipe that sits on the wall and goes to one tub and one sink. I'm trying to figure out the simplest and cheapest way to filter and structure it all. I mostly want to filter Iron and potentially excess manganese and sediment.
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@Sippy so they no longer make the whole home filter I have, (discontinued the particular model, but I can still get all the stuff I need to maintain it). I have a four stage, with an additional charcoal filter, and after it’s run through the various stages it has a structuring unit. Typically I let the water run for about 10-15 seconds if I want particularly structured water, (since the unit is in my garage and has to travel through pipes). I am on city water, (so that might have played a factor in the availability of my model).
I can’t imagine you’d need much more than a pretty standard system from them, (especially since you don’t have any flouride or chlorine to filter out. Hope you have better luck when you next touch base. Do you have a reliable plumber, or will you be installing the unit yourself?
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What natural action product do you use? And also do you prefer the somavedic or the natural action?
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And which products do you recommended for people who travel often and would like to structure their drinking water?
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@metabolicmilk I use the standard funnel from natural action technologies. I just pass water through it 6-10 times. I’ve experimented with 20-100 times and I couldn’t tell much difference after 10.
I like the somavedic too, but I probably prefer the funnel for everyday purposes. It’s also great for travel.
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@evan-hinkle I have a friend that does plumbing that will be helping me install it. I still haven't been able to get anyone else from Greenfield on the phone. Does your filter have stainless housing? I see some in the replacement filters. Have you ever heard of this company? https://www.alivewater.com/vortex-water-revitalizer-product-description What do you think of their design?
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Update: I just spoke to Mikael at Alive Water and he was very nice and helpful. I think I'm going to try one of his units. I like the simplicity of the design and that it seems like a one man show. Here is his other website that is organized a bit differently https://www.alivewater.ca/
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@Sippy seems decent as a structuring device, (though I don’t have any experience with them). It’s not a water filter though, so it’s going to be much cheaper, (and if you’re on well water that tests well maybe you don’t need something like that anyway? I’m on city water, so it’s a must).
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One thing to bear in mind is that water can be considered a liquid crystal capable of holding memory.
Other sources of structured aka alive/living/coherent water:
- coconut water
- watermelon (watery fruits)
- cucumber (watery veg)
- birch sap water
- water exposed to sunlight (- key being the information held within said sunlight being imprinted onto the water)
Here is an excellent insight into the nature of water:
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/walter-russells-periodic-chart-of-the-elements.6167/#post-115310
Plus a practical demonstration of transforming plain water into an oil like substance (the guy invites anyone to visit him and videotape the process)
https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html
All videos from this guy:
This experiment is based in a renewed understanding of the nature of what elements are, all explained with pictures at the beginning of the thread:
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/walter-russells-periodic-chart-of-the-elements.6167
@ThinPicking @yerrag
You might find the perspectives shared in this link interesting! The site itself is full of interesting stuff. -
I wanted to share a fun cheap trick. This is very helpful for travel but also at home. Fill a glass of water. Pour it into a second glass. Then pour it back into the first glass… repeat.
Ok! Some details. Pour the water and look at the water flowing into the other glass. You pour it slowly, not super slow. But look at the water. The water stretches on itself. It pulls and spins because it wants to be stable but can’t cuz you’re forcing it to move. If you keep going back and forth from glass to glass and lift the pouring glass higher so you’re splashing alittle, (nature is abundant don’t worry) you really start to oxygenate the water in the lower glass. Structuring and enlivening the water! It’s fun and exciting! And the coolest part if your watch the water being poured in larger quantities, so that you can watch if for longer duration, you see that the water structure is the double helix!!!
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The natural action technologies hand held vortex devices is remarkable for moving water from sink to a table top filter and then again to a pitcher of water left out in the counter with some sea salt in it. The vortex device perfectly helps fill a water bottle in the morning. I use a miron black glass bottle. I have years experience playing with water. I’m a gardener and have tried a few structuring devices for watering lots of plants. And if anyone wants to know more about that let me know.
