A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.
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I watched this awhile ago and if I remember the only thing that they found off is that his hCG was high which could indicate a real health problem. And his SHBG was high but that could just be genetic rather than a liver issue.
I agree that overall he looks like a bastion of health and all those weird experts and doctors who think high testosterone is bad for you would take a beating from this example.
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@Crypt-Keeper I agree with you completely. Testosterone is undervalued by so-called experts. Our culture associates high testosterone with sickly over-trained bodybuilders. Also, studies tend to undervalue T-levels in health and well-being. As people with higher T-levels in the public often work manual labour which is tiresome for the body and soul.
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That is what I am driving at. Asking the questions, how does he actually feel? Because to me he looks, acts fine and has active interests of interesting things. I am thinking he may be falling into the trap of modern medicine. You know the "im not sick but 'tested' positive so stay away from for a few weeks" clown medicine.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@bio3nergetic He said he is going to take more tests. It is overwhelmingly likely that he is sick, but he might just be extraordinarily healthy. He looks and acts very healthy though. He looks like a poster boy for good health.
If a person doesn't have symptoms, they're not sick, tests don't prove anything as long as the person doesn't have symptoms, and they're alive. He seems to have healthy skin and hair, in terms of voice, and certain behaviors, he doesn't look extraordinarily healthy, he seems partly effeminate in some of his tone and gestures.
he's partly similar to how Frank Tufano was, Frank Tufano had, or still has, homo or bi tendencies
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@lisan-al-gaib He looks nothing like Frank Tufano, LOL. I Googled him and Tufano looks like he is on the Jeffrey Dahmer spectrum. SpyroPyro looks way healthier in every way.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@lisan-al-gaib He looks nothing like Frank Tufano, LOL. I Googled him and Tufano looks like he is on the Jeffrey Dahmer spectrum. SpyroPyro looks way healthier in every way.
I was referring to the similarity between the effeminate tones and gestures of SpyroPyro, and Frank tufano a few years ago, not the appearance. To be effeminate is not to be in extraordinary health
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@Crypt-Keeper he said his liver enzymes have been elevated for years I think
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you equate freedom of movement and having fun and expressing oneself with being feminine. ok, it's feminine. but it's not unhealthy.
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@noodlecat59 said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
you equate freedom of movement and having fun and expressing oneself with being feminine. ok, it's feminine. but it's not unhealthy.
I dont. Nothing wrong with that.
He has certain ton of voice that are effeminate, which are more common in non-hetero men. They're not just childish, or just not very masculine. To be effeminate, and or to be non-hetero as a man is not to be in optimal health, the other said "extraordinarily healthy".
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He looks good, but there is something weird going on if his test is that high (and it looks like it is) while his voice sounds like that
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He is effeminate, but that is normal in men with extraordinarily high IQs. I think if you are above a certain threshold in intelligence, you will fail to bond with your peers which will have certain consequences. This was the case with the one guy who beat me on the Abel test (math test) at our high school. He looked and behaved very much like this guy. He still comes across as extremely healthy although he might have some developmental deviance due to childhood loneliness. Just look at the energy levels, the bone structure, the body composition, and the varied interests.
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@goodtosell Yeah. I notice that he is lean, but has some definition/ muscle mass, without doing any weightlifting. Someone mentioned that in the comments.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe being able to bond with peers is a sign of high intelligence. being unable to bond with peers is autism. and implying autism is peak intelligence is a giga-cope . Intelligence isn't bare IQ.
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@noodlecat59
- You do not understand the meaning of the word cope.
- No one has mentioned anything related to peak intelligence.
- People without autism can also have a difficult time bonding in the classroom if they have an IQ of 145 and the second smartest kid in class has an IQ of 112.
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1.) i am referring to an identity which i am fairly projecting onto you where the culture you a part of that thinks autism is based. this is a fair projection from my perspective because of the stuff you post.
2.) xD
3.)IQ is a cope, a top tier cope.t. 130iq as verified by a 15min facebook test
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Who knows what his DHT levels are and the levels of other androgens. He mentioned not being able to grow much facial hair. People in this thread are talking about his voice being high pitch, which I think is a sign of low DHT. I don't think testosterone itself masculinizes the voice, though of course in a healthy body, would convert into DHT. I think a simple explanation is that he has high testosterone levels that aren't being converted into high levels of DHT.
A lot of people's idea of steroid hyper masculinity is not going to be caused by just high testosterone alone. Masculine sharp strong bone structure, a deep voice, facial hair, are things I'd correlate with high DHT, which can rise when injecting test.●○ ANTI-SOL BRAH ● ANTI-TRAD WIFE ○●
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I've looked on subreddits for people transitioning and they always go for the one hormone approach. Some FTM use topical DHT for masculinization, specifically growing clit size and more facial hair, but others appear to be scared of DHT because of hair loss, so they take DHT blockers with their testosterone, which of course isn't going to give them full biological male masculinization as men during puberty aren't on DHT blockers.
On the topic of FTM, obviously they're going to have to be very heavy duty to turn a woman into a passable "man", so basically they need to take roid head levels of testosterone and DHT, or else they're just going to look like a really low T feminine man, not like Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth. Of course there's concerns with safety dosing biological women with high levels of T and DHT, but this just means that biological women are going to transform into undesirable soy boys, not anything close to the pinnacle of masculinity.
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@Sugar I figured a lack of DHT could explain StyroPyro's higher pitched voice. I wish he gave some info on DHT blood levels but I bet those doctors weren't smart enough to check. But even if he had decent DHT, it could be bound up by his very high SHBG. Now you get into a tricky case of what tissues can use SHBG-bound hormone and which ones can't? And which tissues create DHT locally w/ 5AR and which ones depend on systemic hormone delivered by the blood? Etc... He has good masculine facial structure, but so do I and I also have high T and low free DHT (due to high SHBG). But he also has a good frame.
As for FTM... Some of the women bodybuilders / strength athletes who take all that gear have a comparable amount of size and strength (for their frame) to men, but for sure FTM aren't going for that look, so they're in a weird spot like you say. And those women bodybuilders don't have masculine faces or frames. If FTM got on those bodybuilder protocols at the age of like, 8, then maybe they could pass for a man. This is all disgusting btw.
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@Crypt-Keeper True. I'm not trying to advocate for the "right way" to be transgender, it's just interesting what point they get themselves to, which is of course the point of the soy boy, and if a biological male soy boy changed his diet and hopped on steroids, he'd get himself much closer to a masculine man.
Honestly I'm dying to see someone Peat and roid at the same time. Lots of roidcels just eat chicken and rice when they could be drinking raw milk, eating cheese, pasture raised eggs, grass fed beef, etc. with better results.
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@noodlecat59 said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
1.) i am referring to an identity which i am fairly projecting onto you where the culture you a part of that thinks autism is based. this is a fair projection from my perspective because of the stuff you post.
2.) xD
3.)IQ is a cope, a top tier cope.- I have never stated that autism is based. Autism is a disorder. Show me any evidence that I think autism is a positive. I value intellect, but I clearly do not sing the praises of disorders. Your argument is debased.
- You lost the argument.
- You confirm again that you do not understand the word cope. Furthermore, IQ is validated and of great value. No one here is arguing that IQ is everything, but it holds a high degree of value.
StyroPyro looks healthier than most 31 year olds in our society by a long shot.
There is no "right way" to be transgender. I am confident that more sexual dimorphism would end most of the confusion for people who are confused about their gender. Males who think they are fEEmales do not need T-blocks, but rather a healthy dose of T. Women who think they are males, need less stress and a higher consumption of the fat-soluble vitamins.
