region with the least bad people

@Razvan are you in serbia? is the food quite good?

LetTheRedeemed

Honestly, Southern states, USA.

I went to Europe for 10 days, fell in love with Vienna, the People (youngest city in EU I believe), culture, etc. they definitely seem smarter and healthier than your avg American. Then I land back in the USA, travel sucks, etc.

Then I hit that Southern bound flight; something feels more alive than anywhere I'd been; the smiles and courtesies, small talk about nothing. IDK what the world thinks of southern race relations thanks to media (we're admittedly cultures apart even living in the same southern city), but a huge babyboomer cowboy helps a black lady with her luggage, and they make a good time of it with perfect pleasantry like old friends meeting again. Everyone feels happy being alive. As the plane descends, the reality of a 100 degree summer hits, but the degree of life and latent happiness overcorrects terrible weather and ugly urban sprawl. Everybody sincerely wants to embody Jesus - liberal or conservative, black or white.

Economic migration has pretty thoroughly distributed criminal neighborhoods to every major hub of the country, but you can get remarkably clean middle class areas with low crime in rural America still.

I would compare the Southern US to my internetted perceptions of Eastern Europe.

I would also say that, having gotten closer to northern British people (traditional/religious/old-fashioned), they bear the gentility and manners that descended to the Southerner. Having become friends with an Irishman after offending him about the troubles (lol), we became good friends and meeting other Irish thru the years, I'd say they have the joviality and down to earth character that descended to the rednecks and hillbilllies.

Swing on by for a visit before it all goes the way of globohomo!

@LetTheRedeemed xD what do you think about Texas? Is it ok in the winter?

LetTheRedeemed

@noodlecat59 glad you like my sales pitch xD

I'm in Texas. I'd say some college towns in the other southern states are more in line with what I'm talking about (I fell in love with Birmingham, and several places in Arkansas). These places seem to be where native Texans are retreating. Right now Texas is undergoing an exponential change and it's honestly pretty sad to watch. Many types of migrants everywhere - huge rural gentrification driving up taxes and running off poor rural "indigenous" (for lack of a better word). These immigrants of course, are not bad people, but they are pretty thoroughly international - nothing idiosyncratic or homespun about them - it's what you get in every new suburb and apartment complex in the world right now. But the migrants kinda catch on quick in the sense of being responsive to total strangers (a southern phenomenon it seems hah).

@LetTheRedeemed kewl i will fit right in. im in western Canada and i sometimes verbally abuse people who dont respond to a passing hello on the street.

LetTheRedeemed

@noodlecat59 hahahah based

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The few Canadians I’ve known could pass for Texans.

LetTheRedeemed

@LetTheRedeemed Winters are mild unless you’re in the panhandle in Texas. Nights get bitter in our old drafty farm house, but it’s perfect sized for wood fire heat from one stove, in a bad winter we might burn 2 chords.

We get sleet a few weeks out of the year or so.

oliveoil

Rural Mediterranean areas that are not affected by massive tourism and immigration.

@Razvan razvan. sorry for being rude before i edited my post and if you read it. please reply back and tell more about eastern europe. i'd like to hear more

The Dutch are very friendly and laid-back people and I always felt good when I was in the Netherlands. Same problems as everywhere else in the Western world, though. Slovenians are also really nice. Clean cities, too.

But I'm not really a traveller, so I can't contribute much.

LetTheRedeemed

@Luke I think "Same problems as everywhere else in the Western world..." is the real issue, and I've resigned to no more "retreating."

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Regina

@insufferable where's Japan in there? Should be up there near the top, right?

LetTheRedeemed

@insufferable nice

@LetTheRedeemed said in region with the least bad people:

@Luke I think "Same problems as everywhere else in the Western world..." is the real issue, and I've resigned to no more "retreating."

What does "no more reatreating" look like in everyday life?

@Luke not running away when they see a brown person in their neighborhood xD

LetTheRedeemed

@Luke what noodlecat59 said.

lol no, creating more local contacts with people who share values -- "networking" with people who run small pro-human businesses (think farms/restaurants/grocers/builders), who you can count on when the world goes to pot.

I have a long term goal of creating wholistic farm operations that involve the community.

Think of a neighborhood of lawns with the fences and vanity lawns torn down and converted into a big farm and garden! rip up those concrete sidewalks, and put in stone paths winding around trees, houses, and secret gardens! take over HOA's and build small store fronts out of garages. the money is there for efforts like these, like no other time -- people crave authenticity, community, and health, more than ever, and they're paying thru the nose for the most superficial versions of it (whole foods, farmers markets, farm to table restaurants).

And, it doesn't have to be the quirky weird hippy lizard abstract art vibe (unless you like that).

These are dreams...

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