Glucose loading cures everything?
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@CrumblingCookie Purechem 35% food grade, zero stabilizers.
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Can someone please fill me in on the thought process behind oral H2O2 therapy and a good resource(s) to learn more about it? I assume one of the benefits is to improve overall tissue oxygen levels within the body?
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@GlucoseOrBust As I review information, I'm not 100% sold on drinking peroxide. It damages tissues and should not even be used topically daily.
Chlorine dioxide is likely safer. I use it twice daily as a mouthwash. I used to take it internally but
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On the RPF I've found a link to this ebook and website and mentioning of "The One-Minute Cure, The Secret to Healing Virtually All Diseases" as a pdf floating on the internet.
Oral H202 seem to be a neutral-tasting, deeper and rougher precursor to the CDS.
You will find many more people taking CDS as per one of the many protocols. I myself simply can't stand the taste of CDS anymore.
There's also oral sodium chlorite, which is to be taken with a stomach acid buffer (potassium or sodium hydrogencarbonate) and named Chlorite In Soda Solution. That's also almost neutral-tasting and much longer lasting with once or twice a day being sufficient and reacting with acidic microenvironments in the body over many hours. Half a drop of 25% solution is enough to start with.@S-Holmes
Here's an article on its dermatological use: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jaad.2019.05.030. The 1-6% gel concentrations actually seem to more successful and more tolerable in treating acne than common other creams. -
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Stick with chlorine dioxide and ozone if you’re going the oxidative therapy route. More versatile, less abrasive, ime.
And high h2o2 doses taste awful.
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@Jaffe Good advice
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I've been waiting to post about this to see if I would recover. I have (and am).
Last week, I noticed a not unpleasant sensation extending from my upper cervical neck area to the top of my head and over to my ears. (The back of my head hit a concrete step many years ago.) A couple of days later (after the weird sensation) I began developing symptoms of shingles virus. Long story short, I lost the use of my left arm and had severe pain (level 8 by Friday). I called it panic pain...pain so bad it induced panic. My RN daughter said it COULD be heart failure so I took a dose of homeopathic glonoinum (nitro glycerine). I took a lot of aspirin, ibuprofin, and some Tylenol, lysine, famotidine, cemetidine, Antimonium crudum, and Hypericum, all for shingles. I also continued the glucose therapy.
By the next morning the pain had been reduced significantly (!) but it has taken a few days to regain normal use of my arm.
Tbh, I have been amazed at how quickly it has healed. The last time I had frozen shoulder (15 years ago) it took weeks of therapy to be able to regain pain free function. I have also had a major reduction in length and severity of tinnitus. That's HUGE. (We'll see if it lasts.)
I believe this was a breakthrough herxheimer reaction. Dr Stephens said I might have been able to bypass the episode with enough glucose. He asked me if I had been under any unusual amount of stress. I laughed and said we had a family reunion at our farm the Saturday before. Maybe if I had doubled up on the glucose?
I have long believed that a virus is at the root of my health issues. If glucose can control viruses without the side effects of antiviral drugs, what a breakthrough!
I'm 6 weeks in, up to 5 Tbsp per bolus, and feeling very encouraged. No recurring hopeless or dark thoughts since I began. No weight gain so far.
Will keep everyone posted!
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Text from Dr Stephens:
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A central forum would be nice so we don’t have to keep up with conversations in 6+ different places ha
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Hi all, I'm back to share an update. I do not have any definitive explanation for what happened, but...
As I mentioned 2 or 3 weeks ago, I had been on the dextrose protocol for approximately 5 weeks (was at 5 tbsp 3x a day... so in the ballpark of 600 calories a day of dextrose). I went off of it cold turkey.
I went off it because I was going to be doing some traveling, and I didn't want to be a bother to my in-laws or family members I'd be staying with, bringing in large amounts of white powder to their kitchens. I'm doing it more experimentally as opposed to having major symptoms I'm looking to resolve anyway, so I thought it would be a good chance to ensure I wasn't developing a dependency on dextrose.
We left on a Friday, and I quit dextrose cold turkey 2 or 3 days before that (so Tuesday or Wednesday). Nothing notable to report. But then that Sunday night, I started getting pink eye and got sick generally. I stayed sick for several days while the eye discharge ran its course; symptoms were feeling cold, feverish, sore throat, tired, weak, stuffy, coughy, phlegmy. (Fortunately I was feeling much better to the point that we were able to attend an event the following Saturday and have a great time and my eyes were doing better by then-- so it's not that it was debilitating.) Almost two weeks after the initial pinkeye symptom, I still don't feel quite 100% (but by now I am very very close).
Anyway, it's the longest bout of illness I've had in years. Nothing too horrible, just the normal "sick" stuff, the body cleaning gunk out. Others in the house were also under the weather a bit (I seemed to fare worse than the others in the house).
I have no idea if the dextrose had any role in it, but it was interesting and I thought I'd log it here.
Long story short: Stopped dextrose therapy on a Wednesday, felt fine for a few days. Then got sick Sunday night and stayed that way for a while, a little sicker a little longer than typical for me. But I could theorize 1000 reasons for why it happened, and I have no clue if it had anything at all to do with dextrose. Back home now, I'll probably restart dextrose protocol in a few days.
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@jjk_learning Thank you for the update! Please do keep us posted!
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@S-Holmes Will do. I restarted on dextrose yesterday (after being home and getting back to feeling good): 5 tbsp 3 times. No miracles nor setbacks to report but it still tastes good to me!
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@jjk_learning I've stalled out at 4, maybe 4.5 Tbsps, 4 times a day, and holding. Nausea and headaches have been an on and off issue for many years. The glucose is making these worse, but once I get past the nausea (and heartburn) I'll start ramping up again. It's good to understand that healing isn't always easy. Inflammation is an important part, but woe unto those of us who inflame in nerve-rich areas. It isn't easy!
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@jjk_learning In other news, my mental/emotional status is still good. And my husband (also doing glucose) seems to be way less grumpy. Maybe there really is something to that "Eat a Snickers Marsha!" ad.
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@S-Holmes Ha! That made me snicker
Glad to hear that your mental/emotional status is good and that your husband is seeming happier. Sorry to hear about the worsening nausea, headaches, and heartburn though.
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The homeopathic protocol I'm using (along with glucose) for Epstein-Barr and fibromyalgia: Rhus tox 30C + Bryonia alba 200C twice daily. (Must be taken "mixed" together.) Take Hypericum perforatum 200C twice daily if pain is severe. Take apart from the other remedies. You might experience a temporary worsening of symptoms as inflammation/healing begins. If these don't seem to help after a few weeks, discontinue and seek a professional consultant, preferably one familiar with Homeopathic Facial Analysis or the Banerji protocols.
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@jjk_learning said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes Ha! That made me snicker
Glad to hear that your mental/emotional status is good and that your husband is seeming happier. Sorry to hear about the worsening nausea, headaches, and heartburn though.
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@CrumblingCookie said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
The organic dextrose comes in large, white, PP plastic containers and at the first (and every ensuing) opening of that container I was taken aback by a distinct plasticky smell. Luckily, however, no matter how hard I try I cannot sense that plasticky smell from the dextrose powder once I've taken it out of that container. So that's good.
Taste-wise, this particular organic dextrose seemed even "softer" than regular dextrose but I'm not very sure about this and whether that's a good (extra pure?) or a bad (solvents?) sign.
I will work/drink my way through it and report back.Update on the dextrose powder quality:
I'm coming close to having 20kgs of dextrose consumed.
A few days ago I had used up the organic dextrose (large PP container) and so changed back to the dextrose bought at the supermarket (in small cardboard boxes, baking section).
The latter immediately tasted revolting to me. Urgh. I taste a hint of soapiness in it, too. Certainly a bit more nausea from it. And again it felt much harsher against my teeth (sucrose residues?) than the other powder.I immediately ordered the big container again. In the meantime, I've neverthelesse been using the supermarket dextrose and I somewhat re-accustomed myself with it but it remains unpleasant.
I suppose the key take-away from this is to source and try different dextrose powders. Organic may be preferable to conventional. And what comes in plastic containers may be preferable to what comes in cardboard.
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@CrumblingCookie I agree with you. I also bought a 50 lb bag of dextrose. It tasted terrible and wouldn't dissolve well. I'm back to paying a little more for better quality.