Glucose loading cures everything?
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@Insomniac said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
This is the video of Garrett calling Dr. Stephens a crook. It starts at the attack.
Thank you for timestamping that.
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@evan-hinkle Are/were you an athlete?
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@S-Holmes yep, American football…
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@evan-hinkle OMG. The most damaging team sport in the entire world. Do you still play?
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What does the approach you used with glucose consist of in practice?
so by inserting regular physical activity into your life and switching to a more vegan approach you feel better are you telling me?
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@S-Holmes no, I don’t, but I’m certain that I still live with the after effects of just a few years with it. I don’t personally think it’s coincidental that I lost my hair after my first diagnosed concussion at such a young age.
Lately I’m beginning to think that every time your helmet hits another helmet you probably get concussed. Just a pet theory of mine, but there’s a very unique feeling to a helmet on helmet impact vs say a helmet on shoulder pad impact.
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Exactly. Every hit likely has a negative and lasting impact. I'm hoping the glucose will reset your brain and health! I have been in car accidents (whiplash), fell on ice and whacked my head on concrete, and had a very stressful childhood. Two of my three sisters took their own lives. I could sure use a brain reset!
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@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@visalibero I’ve had cavities, (improved with vitamin k) and gum recession that hasn’t responded to antibiotics, (low dose longer term, tried doxy, penicillin, mino). Also my teeth tend to get soft no matter my calcium to phosphorus ratio.
The glucose makes them hard smooth and shiny. I don’t feel the need to brush right after because my oral heal feels improved directly by the glucose.
It’s crazy, but I’ve learned over the years to try things before I get too theoretically dogmatic. I was dogmatic about vegetables, chronic exercise, marijuana, and later veganism, and the lesson for me was: stop being dogmatic.
What product are you using for the glucose?
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@S-Holmes that’s what I find so appealing about this idea of glucose. We all experience this kind of stress, and it really seems like, (whether we’re talking about physical, emotional, or psychological stress) the outcomes are the same. It’s all so rooted in Peat, and Selye, and their frameworks.
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@evan-hinkle It IS! Now if I can just figure out how to increase my amount to therapeutic levels. I'll be drinking syrup! No way could I afford that many glucose tablets!
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@Sunniva I’m using nutricost dextrose powder. I got the 5lb tub, but I think next time I’ll get the 10lb one.
Other than thyroid vitamin E and occasional vitamin K/aspirin I’m not taking anything else. For me, that’s pretty incredible by itself.
I had a period of about a week where I ran out of cynomel and the glucose still kept me sleeping very well, and feeling overall better than I would normally without thyroid.
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@evan-hinkle I take a boatload of supplements. I may cut back and see what happens.
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@Insomniac so I listened to this with a somewhat open mind, (unfortunately I can’t help but judge this particular guy when I see/hear him - just something seems off putting to me) but it seems like he hasn’t actually listened to Dr Stephens, and I say this because Dr Stephens intends glucose to be a temporary therapy. Once you correct the effects of a glucose limiting injury you stop taking glucose. In the video, Smith says, maybe temporarily glucose could have a positive effect, (like filling glycogen stores) but long term any sugar powder is going to be bad. It seems to me, that this is exactly what Dr Stephens is suggesting… indicating that perhaps Smith has not looked too deeply into it.
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The protocol has merit, and is ironically becoming a full circle moment for the RPF. Dr. Stephens and Ray are touching in the same idea but from different perspectives.
It’s odd nobody considered dextrose years ago instead of blowing themselves up on table sugar.
As for Garrett, that’s his canned response for new ideas unless you drown him with research papers like what happened with niacin. He’s established his ecosystem and isn’t going to upset the apple cart.
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@Jaffe I’ve been thinking the same thing. Like the elephant in the room is this is essentially Peat’s work with a minor nuance. Loading glucose instead of fixing oxidative phosphorylation so you can make glucose without gluconeogenesis.
FWIW, I always had trouble with digestion, and so it just makes sense to me to take glucose directly. Though like usual, I’m sure Peat’s approach is more appropriate and obviously respectful to the elegance of life.
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I also have a history of sports related head trauma, terrible digestion, random mood swings, sub clinical hypothyroidism. My early experience with dextrose has been very promising.
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@Insomniac said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
except that it sounds too good to be true
You have good ears in my opinion. Because it's manufactured by hydrolytic and enzymatic process. Although someone could make a case that extraction of sugar is similar. I wouldn't personally.
Honey contains it unbonded, but it's often if not always heavier in fructose. And other stuff.
I get the feeling something is underlying all of this. I think it's this...
@ThinPicking said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Which led me to think it might be osmotic.
Or rather, hydrodynamic.
But I would say that. I've occasionally schizo-posted about fluid dynamics for a while, and other people nudged me there. Maybe it's something else.
