Glucose loading cures everything?
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@S-Holmes
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So, after 3 to 4 months of trial and error (and weight gain and/or swelling) here is what I'm doing (for now). 6 Tbsps of glucose 3 times a day. Fruit ONLY for breakfast, a la Fit for Life, plus a caffeine pill (and aspirin if needed). No coffee or other food until noon. No glucose until noon, with lunch. Charcoal caps (10 per dose) Saturday and Sunday, plus cascara sagrada as needed. No eating between meals and last dose of glucose is taken before bed, usually in fat free chocolate milk.
I'm still cycling through and retracing symptoms I haven't had for decades. Dr Stephens says the well fed brain will prioritize healing from most important to least important. And sometimes it will work one area, shift to another, and later work on the first one again.
I'm not yet near the end of the great glucose experiment but staying with the program.
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@S-Holmes
Thank you. I'm still reading all the experience. It will be an important thread to look up if needed in my opinion. -
@happyhanneke said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes
Thank you. I'm still reading all the experience. It will be an important thread to look up if needed in my opinion.I wish health and happiness to all friends here. Many of us have been on a long and difficult journey and if glucose is the answer or at least an important part of our healing process I really hope those who need it will find it.
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Thanks for the update @S-Holmes .
I am happy to hear that you are proceeding with the glucose experiment.
Notwithstanding my alarming weight gain, and the lack of symptom resolution at my current dose which already feels like its a lot (70g x 5 times a day) I am also for the moment persevering with this experiment. I must admit it's not easy to stay motivated though.
I have a few follow-up questions if you don't mind:
- Have you now lost the weight that you initially gained?
- How would you say the amount of food you currently consuming (non dextrose calories), compares to the pre-dextrose food consumption? I find that if I reduce my food intake, my temperature drops, and I do sometimes feel hungry.
- I recall you did mention in previous posts, but could you explain more about the symptoms you are recycling?
- What would you say is the key factor/s that is keeping you motivated to continue?
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@marmalade_cat said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Thanks for the update @S-Holmes .
I am happy to hear that you are proceeding with the glucose experiment.
Notwithstanding my alarming weight gain, and the lack of symptom resolution at my current dose which already feels like its a lot (70g x 5 times a day) I am also for the moment persevering with this experiment. I must admit it's not easy to stay motivated though.
I have a few follow-up questions if you don't mind:
- Have you now lost the weight that you initially gained?
- How would you say the amount of food you currently consuming (non dextrose calories), compares to the pre-dextrose food consumption? I find that if I reduce my food intake, my temperature drops, and I do sometimes feel hungry.
- I recall you did mention in previous posts, but could you explain more about the symptoms you are recycling?
- What would you say is the key factor/s that is keeping you motivated to continue?
It is certainly difficult to stay motivated if there doesn't seem to be any improvement. I'm on day 5 of only eating fruit until noon so too soon for any weight loss (and I have no scales for weighing). I'm eating 2 regular meals a day and my temperature is still reaching around 98.6 to 99 by late afternoon.
As for retracing, I've had migraines, bad nausea, bad heartburn, lack of appetite, very painful frozen shoulder (shingles), back pain, leg pain, constipation and more. Symptoms appear and then disappear, usually in less than a week. The last time I had frozen shoulder (15 years ago) it lasted months and I finally had to see a doctor for ultrasound treatments to resolve it. This time was more painful but it only lasted a few days and was resolved with glucose and homeopathic remedies. My motivation is that my depression is much better, and I always give a new experiment time to work. Dr. Stephens says 4 months is usually the minimum amount of time required. I've had CFS/ME for many years so it may take me longer to be 100%.
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Dr. Stephens says 4 months is usually the minimum amount of time required. I've had CFS/ME for many years so it may take me longer to be 100%.
Thank you for sharing your updates, @S-Holmes and @marmalade_cat
It's interesting to me that he says 4 months is usually the minimum amount of time required. I got the impression from watching his interviews previously that some people saw pretty major improvements basically immediately. As in, they even felt their brains turn on at the first dose. I know that doesn't mean 100% resolution by any means. But I guess but the overall experiences reported herea and at RayPeatForum (some positive results, some negative, some neutral) aren't seeming to quite line up with how it came across from his interviews (e.g. my impression was: it works great 100% of the time if you stick with it, you'll notice it working right away, and eventually it will resolve basically all ailments). But it's very interesting to follow.
All in all, I'm encouraged by some aspects of what people are reporting, discouraged by others. I'm sticking with the protocol for now. I'm fortunate to be in good health but have a few minor symptoms I'm watching out for (e.g. dandruff, foamy urine, white tongue at the back of tongue). No change in those symptoms but my subjective experience has been neutral-to-subtly positive so far. I'm a little over 2 months in (started mid-June with a 2-week break for travel in late July/early August).
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@S-Holmes I wonder if these symptoms are related to decalcification of past injuries due to elevated body temps. Ray or Georgi talked about that happening to people when their temps elevate on thyroid.
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@LetTheRedeemed Would it be possible to provide a link?
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@S-Holmes I'll see what I can find
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes I'll see what I can find
Thanks! It's interesting that my temps have been good for a few years now without taking thyroid. (I took Cynomel for about 3 years but temps didn't respond.) I've been taking 10 mg of famotidine for about 4 years so maybe that's helping with displaced calcium? The glucose is definitely helping with mood swings and attitude. I don't bottom out when something mildly upsetting happens. As for the physical stuff, still working through it, but the direction seems promising.
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@S-Holmes nice. I'm having trouble finding it. it was an offhanded comment I saw in a transcript
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes nice. I'm having trouble finding it. it was an offhanded comment I saw in a transcript
No worries. Just if you come across it again the context may be helpful.
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@S-Holmes for sure
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Quick update. I'm still on 6 TBSPs of glucose 3 to 4 times a day. I've been taking my temperature again lately and am amazed. My afternoon temps are running 99° to 99.3°. I used to take thyroid (T3), maybe 10 years ago, and my temps were still in the dumpster. The thyroid didn't do much for me. So I've had an aha moment. In order for thyroid to work it must have enough glucose. (RP101), so the glucose therapy is restoring thyroid function. I have never restricted sugar, never done the keto diet, but apparently my high stress levels and PUFA's were enough to wreck my metabolism. Glucose to the rescue!
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Another quick observation. In my part of the world, ragweed is giving everyone grief right now, and yesterday my eyes were really burning. I remembered Dr Stephens said to take glucose until symptoms subside, so I took an extra dose. Within minutes my eyes stopped burning. I continue to be amazed.
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@S-Holmes Pretty Peaty solution. I've done that with caffeine too, the last several years
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@LetTheRedeemed Yes! Glucose AND Caffeine for the win!!
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FYI, I played with caffeine pills for a while and can confirm the experiences of others, that coffee has a more pronounced caffeine effect than pure caffeine alone.
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Quick update. I'm still on 6 TBSPs of glucose 3 to 4 times a day. I've been taking my temperature again lately and am amazed. My afternoon temps are running 99° to 99.3°. I used to take thyroid (T3), maybe 10 years ago, and my temps were still in the dumpster. The thyroid didn't do much for me. So I've had an aha moment. In order for thyroid to work it must have enough glucose. (RP101), so the glucose therapy is restoring thyroid function. I have never restricted sugar, never done the keto diet, but apparently my high stress levels and PUFA's were enough to wreck my metabolism. Glucose to the rescue!
Ragweed been kicking out ass lol idk why I didn’t think to try this again
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