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Can I replace water with milk?

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    short_hope
    last edited by Jul 11, 2024, 11:21 PM

    Water's not very good for hydration. In a study where they looked at hydrating effect of coffee, it had a slightly diuretic effect on people who normally don't drink coffee but for regular drinkers it was as hydrating as water. But both sugar water and salt water were better.

    I have a glass of water at night in case I sleep need to drink at night (normally don't) but other than that I almost never drink just water, oh and even that has a little salt.

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      VehmicJuryman @b1
      last edited by Jul 11, 2024, 11:51 PM

      I thought most Peaters didn't drink water. I've found that I almost never crave water, I get 99% of my hydration from milk and juice.

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        A Former User
        last edited by Jul 12, 2024, 2:00 AM

        You would probably get fat.

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          b1 @short_hope
          last edited by Jul 12, 2024, 10:23 AM

          @short_hope
          What do you drink then? or do you just not drink?

          ILF

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            DG
            last edited by Jul 12, 2024, 6:18 PM

            if you're totally replacing it then don't go above 1% fat

            last name gang first name drain

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              short_hope @A Former User
              last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 12:14 AM

              @RawGoatMilk88
              Until I learn to get my nutrients from the sun and absorb moisture from the atmosphere I'm drinking milk, juice, coffee, tea (during the allergy season) sometimes a coke.

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                Sattva @A Former User
                last edited by Sattva Jul 13, 2024, 7:27 AM Jul 13, 2024, 7:25 AM

                I'm stating the obvious here but think it's worth stating as 'milk makes you fat' seems a common belief. If you're eating a complete diet and add milk you will probably gain weight, if the milk replaces other food sources you shouldn't get fat. An extreme example is that if I only drink whole milk for my calories and don't eat anything else, I don't don't get fat.

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                  A Former User @short_hope
                  last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 9:25 PM

                  @short_hope

                  Nothing wrong with that

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                    A Former User @Sattva
                    last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 9:26 PM

                    @Sattva

                    I don’t think anyone thinks “milk makes you fat” but drinking milk exclusively in place of water probably would.

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                      LucH @A Former User
                      last edited by LucH Jul 13, 2024, 10:53 PM Jul 13, 2024, 10:51 PM

                      Milk IS lightly acidifying.
                      Water IS more valuable for what it takes away than what it brings.
                      There are two kinds of water. Water as food and water as purifying agent (cleansing agent).
                      Perso I'd target to balance lactose with m'y capacity to assimilate it cause WE are enzyme-limited. Could ferment then.
                      Note: Most of thé milks are recombined when not spécified. Traficoted. Mind thé source.

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                        T-3 @LucH
                        last edited by Jul 14, 2024, 1:48 AM

                        @LucH Good comment re water should be thought of primarily as 'what it takes away'.

                        My own regimen is zero water intake and heavy milk consumption (1.5 to 2 liters per day, full fat).

                        I agree with @Sattva that dietary fears such as 'need water for hydration' and 'milk makes you fat' are generally overplayed (acknowledging that everyone's context will be different). I have found it difficult to reconcile Peat's recommendation of reduced-fat milk to avoid getting fat when consumed in large quantities with my own positive experience, benefitting from unlimited full-fat milk consumption with zero water intake.

                        I frequently try to convince my adult sons to reduce water intake. I worry that sipping on water throughout the day interferes with the body's utilization of nutrients and likely slows the basal metabolic rate, all else equal.

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                          short_hope @b1
                          last edited by Jul 18, 2024, 10:29 PM

                          @b1 said in Can I replace water with milk?:

                          What do you drink then? or do you just not drink?

                          Just noticed I quoted the wrong person:

                          @RawGoatMilk88
                          Until I learn to get my nutrients from the sun and absorb moisture from the atmosphere I'm drinking milk, juice, coffee, tea (during the allergy season) sometimes a coke.

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                            T-3 @short_hope
                            last edited by T-3 Jul 20, 2024, 12:35 AM Jul 20, 2024, 12:31 AM

                            @short_hope I drink 1.5+ liters of whole milk, orange juice, grape juice, lots of coffee w/ milk (throughout the day), occasional coconut water, fizzy drinks with sucrose/glucose.

                            Fluid content in the foods we eat (whole fruit, etc.) is often not included as it should be (or not easy to quantify) when people think about their fluid intake.

                            I grew up with parents very interested in health food and maintaining good hydration. And I raised my children pushing frequent water consumption on them, which I now regret (before reading Ray Peat on 'salt to taste' and dangers of excess water intake). I think excessive worry about dehydration and excess water intake worked against my health objectives. I'm now feeling like good metabolic health has been finally achieved (last 5-8 years) after stopping water drinking. Of course still using water to cook soup/broth, boil potatoes, etc.

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