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    Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set

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      bot-mod @Peatful
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      With respect and although the subject is hard, you have the phonology of a whole hearted songbird.

      More importantly. Raymond is right. I'm part-time nerdy, locally executed token prediction is cool (and very crude). "Cloud" computing is uncool (and very crude). But Raymond is right.

      Even as an adult.

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        Mr @sharko, what do you think. Why are we in a rush?

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          Peatful @bot-mod
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          @ThinPicking said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

          With respect and although the subject is hard, you have the phonology of a whole hearted songbird.

          More importantly. Raymond is right. I'm part-time nerdy, locally executed token prediction is cool (and very crude). "Cloud" computing is uncool (and very crude). But Raymond is right.

          Even as an adult.

          No no

          Im a despised bitter Karen!

          Get it right….

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          Him offering me or reflecting back to me what I already knew, was so comforting to me during this time

          I was so beaten down as a parent

          All those educators in our local schools should be ashamed of themselves for what they did these kids

          I will continue to hold on to his words of resist
          and not give strength to the irrational and nonhuman system

          I miss him

          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

          SD

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            yerrag @bot-mod
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            @ThinPicking said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

            Mr @sharko, what do you think. Why are we in a rush?

            We're moving too slow against Google and Microsoft which are slaves to the evil empire.

            Why do we resist being disarmed and let our government have a monopoly on munitions and armaments? Is there a better way to make us sitting ducks?

            Put into context the AI being our source of official information in the future. Is it going to let us know things better? What will be its narrative on Ray Peat and the bioenergetic principles he espouses?

            And how do you propose we stand up against it? Is it better to bury our heads under the sand and chant "No to AI in whatever form and shape. Pure pure evil."

            Is there a context here that deserves to be considered or are we living in a vacuum of idealism?

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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              bot-mod @Peatful
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              @Peatful said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

              I miss him

              🧡

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                bot-mod @yerrag
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                Excellent. To be continued!

                (Others chime in.)

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                  sharko
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                  Friends, to all naysayers: you are going too far with your thinking.

                  I use AI to get answers faster and what I do today to help myself and others with health, I could do maybe in 5 years of intensive learning without AI.

                  I do not refer to all the beautiful theories because they are not relevant to my reality. In reality, to get real benefit from AI, you have to learn to work with it correctly. Just like the difference between one person and another person searching for answers on Google.

                  For example, using AI to get an answer to a question like "How to treat anxiety?" And applying his answers is as bad as searching on Google and acting on the first result. It uses me as a much more effective and faster research tool than Google.

                  And all the naysayers with the beautiful theories: I understand that you don't use search technology to learn. Do you only use old books that gather dust?

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                    @yerrag said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                    I have for now only my own thought processes to guide me in my own expectations from AI. I can only think of it as extremely useful as uncovering concealed dots which I have overlooked, leaving me to spend more time connecting the dots in search of solutions where cause and effect is brought back from exile in the current orthodoxy of academia and science.

                    I'm with you. I often use peatbot to find extra info. However, it is worth emphasizing that LLM can also serve us faulty dots...

                    A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                    And drinking largely sobers us again.
                    ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                      yerrag @Kvirion
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                      @Kvirion said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                      @yerrag said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                      I have for now only my own thought processes to guide me in my own expectations from AI. I can only think of it as extremely useful as uncovering concealed dots which I have overlooked, leaving me to spend more time connecting the dots in search of solutions where cause and effect is brought back from exile in the current orthodoxy of academia and science.

                      I'm with you. I often use peatbot to find extra info. However, it is worth emphasizing that LLM can also serve us faulty dots...

                      Good to be reminded of it as always a work in progress.

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        bot-mod @sharko
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                        @sharko said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                        naysayers

                        In context, I don't think there are any. Just some words of caution.

                        @sharko said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                        before it crumbles to pieces

                        @sharko said in Bioenergetic AI Labs: The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:

                        you are going too far with your thinking

                        Our perspectives are quite different.

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                          brad
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                          Seems like an interesting project. Can I ask why it's so expensive for you to run?

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