My Experiments With Hormones
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@RFC32 do you know what type of test alpha gels uses? i ask because when you look at raw test powders for sale theres multiple different types attached to different esters, and then theres test base which is supposed to be just pure test without an ester. I wonder if its better to go with one or the other or if it doesnt matter.
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Any updates?
Also, can someone chime in regarding oral test metabolizing in the liver? i remember when i wanted to get into AAS about 8 years ago reading that those oral test supplements are toxic to the liver when metabolized, but as far as i remember those werent real test but rather test derivates. Does this apply to real test as well?
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@NokiaDrift No it does not
lance armstrong famously drank The Oil, which is testosterone undecanoate or testosterone base dissolved in olive oil. it bypassed his liver and may actually improve liver health, your lymphatic system absorbs it, not the liver.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8451678/
Doing the same thing with vitamin e also works
mixing this with this would work very well orally
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Oral test is not toxic to the liver and in fact there are studies showing that it effectively raises testosterone concentrations at moderate dosages.
As you can see from the study plot, only 100 mg testosterone as free crystals increased T about 12 Nmol/L ~ 300 ng/dL (conservatively) at maximum, and for about 2 hours. So, if you took say 5 times that (500 mg) once or twice daily, you should have a linear if not super-linear transformation (since at higher doses, if anything the body's metabolism of T would decrease, leading to higher levels assuming absorption is not diminished) you should see a peak of about 1500 ng/dL above your natural level and it should be supraphysiological for several hours if not longer.
A lot of oral T is converted to DHT btw, so it should not be a problem as far as being overly estrogenic.
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This only applies to 17-a alkylated steroids or 7-a alkylated steroids (or really any synthetic androgen that is created in such a way that there is steric hinderance to its metabolism).
Oral androgens are not harmful in general. For example, in the 2000's there were many prohormones like 4-AD and 1-AD which were not methylated and were not liver toxic.
Oral test itself is not liver toxic and has in fact been used in combination with thiamine to help heal the liver.
