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    • VehmicJurymanV
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      Youtube Video

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        Interesting, I didn’t know that.

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          @VehmicJuryman tldr?

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            @the-MOUSE When you exercise your body compensates by resting more, sleeping more, etc. and you end up burning an equal amount of calories as if you hadn't exercised.

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              And CICO, hmm. After displaying a fluffy animation of a beating heart 😉 and suggesting calorie surplus will certainly lead to 'chronic inflammation' and overproduction of 'hormones you don't need' like cortisol.

              Viewer beware. Chew through the sources.

              https://sites.google.com/view/sources-workoutparadox

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                @VehmicJuryman That makes no sense to me, not exercising means you’re spending all of your time in constant rest.

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                  Utterly retarded, like most of Kurzgesagt's videos.

                  Exercise does contribute to weight loss, provably so. It's indisputable.

                  Weight loss all stems on if you are in a caloric deficit. Say you are eating a daily diet with a -500 calorie deficit, based on your TDEE.

                  Now lets say you work out in the gym + go for a walk/run, and this adds up to 2-3 hours of work. You would burn 300-500 calories, depending on intensity and heart rate.

                  This doesn't cause weight loss? RETARD.

                  Sleeping more? LOL
                  Have you never been on a training regimen for an extended period of time? The point is that you work out consistently, every day, with some rest days here and there. There's no possible way for your body to prevent the weight loss....

                  Anyone who denies that calorie deficit + working out = weight loss, is FAT.

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                    @oliveoil @Hearthfire As explained in the video, your body compensates for the training by reducing calorie expenditures in other areas. This is why overtraining is bad for you and causes physiological stress, just like Ray Peat used to say.

                    "Humans and other species adapt dynamically to changes in daily physical activity, maintaining total energy expenditure within a narrow range. Chronic exercise thus suppresses other physiological activity, including immunity, reproduction, and stress response." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30303776/

                    "Rather than increasing total energy expenditure linearly in response to physical activity, individuals tend to adapt metabolically to increased physical activity, muting the expected increase in daily energy throughput [5, 10, 11, 12]. These metabolic changes can be behavioral, such as sitting instead of standing, or fidgeting less, but they may also include reductions in other, non-muscular metabolic activity. For example, men and women enrolled in a long-term exercise study exhibited reduced basal metabolic rate at week 40 [11], and studies in healthy adult women have shown suppressed ovarian activity and lower estrogen production in response to moderate exercise [13]. Other species have also been shown to keep total energy expenditure remarkably constant in response to increased physical activity, reducing energy expenditure on growth [14], somatic repair [15, 16], and basal metabolic rate [17, 18] and even reducing lactation and cannibalizing nursing offspring [19], even when food is available ad libitum and total energy expenditure is well within maximum sustained levels [5, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19]." https://www.cell.com/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)01577-8

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                      @VehmicJuryman said in Kurzgesagt argues that exercise does not cause weight loss:

                      As explained in the video, your body compensates for the training by reducing calorie expenditures in other areas. This is why overtraining is bad for you and causes physiological stress, just like Ray Peat used to say.

                      Yes we know. Resting heart rate will fall, for example.

                      What about the rest of it.

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                        @Hearthfire said in Kurzgesagt argues that exercise does not cause weight loss:

                        Anyone who denies that calorie deficit + working out = weight loss, is FAT.

                        Fair. With a possible rebound and disoriented sense of need at an extreme. If a person wants to rest a regime.

                        But the opposite is a (mainstream) anomaly in many.

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