Carbogen - How to Make or Where to Get

RandomUser

I've read an enormous amounts of positive experiences with Carbogen, a mixture of 80% oxygen and 20% CO2. Everything from massive stress releases, to near death experiences (despite it being completely safe). Am curious if anyone has tried and if it can be bought/made.

yerrag

@RandomUser Linde sells it in Europe under prescription.

www.catbogenetics sells a machine called carbonated for around $700, but is made with atmospheric air combined with co2 instead. And to keep from being used, you breathe carbogen for a max duration of 20 minutes each time.

RandomUser

@yerrag

Thanks, that's very interesting. I can't believe it's $700. I wonder how difficult it'd be to buy a canister with custom proportions and just set it up myself with a mask.

Have you tried Carbogen before? Curious if you have any experience.

yerrag

@RandomUser said in Carbogen - How to Make or Where to Get:

@yerrag

Thanks, that's very interesting. I can't believe it's $700. I wonder how difficult it'd be to buy a canister with custom proportions and just set it up myself with a mask.

It's probably not legal. Otherwise someone would be selling it here, like haidut. It has to be heavily regulated that only Linde sells it under prescription.

A doctor for ,Klaus Schwab probablywrites a prescription for Schwab. Meant only for system lords to use.

Have you tried Carbogen before? Curious if you have any experience.

I use an earlier model of the Carbohaler. It saved my life by providing exogenous CO2 when I was under great physiological stress that pretty much had me reverting to glycolytic metabolism and unable to produce much CO2, and I was unable to fight off what I believe to be a fungal parasitic infection that is generally misnomered as COVID.

disfrutarlo

It looks like the cardihaler sold by the conscious breathing institute is now more affordable than the c02 inhaler sold by carbogenetics

yerrag

@disfrutarlo

The cardihaler looks good. I don't know enough about it without using it. The carbogen machine I have limits the CO2 to 10%, and cake with a mask that makes it inconvenient to sleep with. That was in all likelihood the intent in the design, as the current version pretty much limits usage to something like 15 minutes per session. This was done to limit unforeseen mishaps in extended use. In a sue happy world, imagined unlikely events can be created to drive a nice and healthful idea and product into bankruptcy.

I had to modify my already 'unsafe v1 version of the carbogen machine so that I can breathe carbogen the whole night to get the maximum benefits from its unrestricted use.

Lejeboca

@disfrutarlo well, they jacked up the price to $1350 since September.

Lejeboca

I managed to get the device before the price hike and with a bit of a discount. Now I use it daily. Still just for a few minutes at about 3% of CO₂.

Noticed better sleep (remember dreams better and consistently get about 7 hours of sleep).
Inhaling CO₂ also helped clear my migraine. (It was a mild, albeit annoying, case of migraine.)

Here is an interesting paper on the CO₂ for migraines:

STUDIES ON HEADACHE1. Effects of Carbon Dioxide—Oxygen Mixtures Given During Preheadache Phase of the Migraine Attack 2. Further Analysis of the Pain Mechanisms in Headache

From the Summary and Conclusions section:

A series of patients were given a 10 per cent carbon dioxide-90 per
cent oxygen mixture by face mask during the preheadache or early headache phase. This mixture abolished the preheadache phenomena and aborted the headache in most of the trials. Ten per cent carbon dioxide in air was less effective, having a shorter and more transient effect.