I have hit rock bottom please help.
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@S-Holmes said
@lulueatsmeat You might want to hop over to the glucose loading thread. Since you've tried everything else, like most of us, it's worth a shot.
This one: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/2319/glucose-loading-cures-everything/351
This. Join us self-determined guinea pigs :-).
You may want to have a look into the Marshall Protocol, too. Because acne as a constant skin infection you are not overcoming and also malfunctioning thyroid hormone metabolism fits that, too.
https://mpkb.org/home/mp -
It sounds like you have gut issues, maybe you should focus on addressing this first and foremost. Have you tried adding collagen in your diet? My digestion improved a lot after introducing gelatin, collagen peptides and bone broth (check a recipe called master’s broth in this forum)
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I've found that topical aspirin, caffeine, and niacinamide (vitamin B3) are extremely helpful for acne outbreaks
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Eating a lot of sugar helped reduce my acne, especially acne cysts, but it hasn't completely resolved it.
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@Crypt-Keeper it did for when i was on it, 6 months off and it came back 10x worse..
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@oliveoil yea i have tried gelatine, collagen, bone broth.. everything.. doesnt seem to make a difference
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well it won't be overnight. I'd just focus on foods that don't trigger a gut reaction first of all and go from there. It does seem like you need to fix your gut before anything else.
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@Jakeandpace already am. i eat meat, yoghurt, dates, honey, some ripe fruits and wild caught fish.. ive been eating like this for a good while now.. diets dont seem to be making a difference, i think theres a underlying problem with my gut not being able to digest literally anything.. i need something drastic..
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Perhaps vitamin D.
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@lulueatsmeat hypothyroidism, look into that if you haven’t already. Taking T3 changed my skin and my life. All the best friend
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@lulueatsmeat the most likely thing is that liver glycogen synthase has been inactivated because of the carb deprivation from your carnivore dieting. Carbs and T3 likely the solution. About 10 years ago I did keto and intermittent fasting for long enough that I got myself into an insomnia loop waking up at 3:00 every night with a cortisol/adrenaline rush and this went on for over a year. The only thing that broke the fight-or-flight cycle was 1/4 of a cynomel pill (~6.25mcg of T3) and Mexican Coke taken around 7 or 8 pm. That made me sleep through the night for the first time in over a year and then things started becoming normal again. Once you break out of the high adrenaline/hypothyroid cycle you can start to fix the rest.
If you do this make sure you have enough magnesium in your system so you don’t get heart pain. This amount of t3 is a small dose but it can still be very powerful. Peat and T3uncoupled talk about some people experiencing this if they are magnesium deficient. Peat talks about it on the weight loss for women podcast and T3 uncoupled mentions it in one of their earlier substack articles. You can drink milk and eat cocoa and other high magnesium foods but I am thinking an Epsom salt bath might be the most surefire way.
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@herayclitus do you have a product which has all 3 components or do you apply everything separately??
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@Shar_to_the_dae thank you this really makes me feel less alone..🩷 I have been thinking of trying T3 or NDT but theres alot of people saying that you should fix your gut first before trying anything thyroid, which kinda put me off.. as well as the fact that i am running on cortisol (as my dropping temps indicate) so im really scared how my body would react. But I actually believe hypothyroidism could be the root cause of my constipation so I really wanna try.. Did you only take T3? So Cytomel? How much? And did you take anything with it like magnesium, b- vitamins? Would love to hear about your story🩷
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@vocedilegno Thank you so so much! I‘m glad theres other past keto dieters..My sleep has honestly been a mess as well. I‘m just kinda scared how my body would react as I feel like its still under alot of stress..Would you also recommend me to start with 1/4 of Cytomel? Did you increase it or take T4 with it now? Would epsom salt baths and magnesium spray be enough? If not what magnesium is best? biglycinate?
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@VehmicJuryman wow really? any sugar makes me breakout even honey and fruit.
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You can try taking t3 by itself and if it helps transition to a t3+t4 combo like cynoplus. Also the standard Peaty things like increasing Calcium, Vitamin d, Vitamin k, Aspirin dissolved in water with baking soda. cyproheptadine is very good for nuking cotisol and helping sleep which goes a long way when your unwell. Danny Roddys Demestrying Thyroid Supplementation is a good article to learn about supplementing Thyroid and should help you out.
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@Jakeandpace honestly dont think so.. i get lots of sun.. even on vacation where i was outside the whole day things didnt get better. tried supplementing as well didnt do anything
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@PrinceTrebata thank you so much i will look into the article.. I’m still trying to figure out a source for cynoplus in germany but cytomel should be easy..
What do you think of NDT? Ive been told that its better to get started with? Also I can only get a Vit K2 in MCT oil, would that still be worth it (since alot of people recommended to only use one with olive oil, because MCT could be irritating or something..?) -
@lulueatsmeat Ray Peat only recommends Cynoplus and Cynomel because the doses were accurate to the label in comparison to NDT where the actual t3 and t4 can be more or less than what is stated. Some people find MCT oil to be irritating but I think it's better for transdermal use. Parsley is also a very good source of food source vitamin k which can be cheaper than the supplement.
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@PrinceTrebata Alright thank you! If you dont mind could you please explain why I should start with T3 only? And for how long?
