If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?
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I find the higher saturated fat curbs my appetite, helps me maintain my weight and makes me feel good all around.
It makes my temperature go thru the roof.
I keep reading, contrary to what they’ve told us for 60 years, that saturated fat is good for you. It’s what our ancestors ate.
It’s traditional food they ate for thousands of years.
Why are so many still afraid of good saturated fat found in coconut oil, butter, dairy products, and meat?
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Anyone have an answer?
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You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
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@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
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My main question: why is having free flowing fatty acid from saturated fat circulating around one’s body bad, if saturated fat is the “good” fat?
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@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
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@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
You sound like me- your history. We woman have had it drummed into our heads that (good saturated) fat is taboo. Almost a conspiracy isn’t it?
About fat and libido, omygosh yes! Fat is well amazing
Yeah, I don’t know anyone who can eat “icy” ice cream.
A sorbet is one thing, but gotta have the butterfat for quality ice cream
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@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
Have you heard of Dr. Elizabeth Bright?
She really promotes fat for your hormones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2bVzaWqw9k
I don’t necessarily agree with all the conclusions mentioned here in the video, but I do believe fat is definitely important for our hormones.
Another interesting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FurbXq-myBw
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@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
Have you heard of Dr. Elizabeth Bright?
She really promotes fat for your hormones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2bVzaWqw9k
I don’t necessarily agree with all the conclusions mentioned here in the video, but I do believe fat is definitely important for our hormones.
Another interesting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FurbXq-myBw
She says women need more fat for our endocrine system. She discusses how she burned out her adrenals running 10 miles a day. I did the same with extreme undereating and extreme exercize. So she basically agrees with Dr. Peat that extreme exercize is dangerous to one’s body. She’s not a proponent of carbs though. Disagree with her on that. I feel carbs are important for many things, but as Peaters, we know that.
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@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
You sound like me- your history. We woman have had it drummed into our heads that (good saturated) fat is taboo. Almost a conspiracy isn’t it?
About fat and libido, omygosh yes! Fat is well amazing
Yeah, I don’t know anyone who can eat “icy” ice cream.
A sorbet is one thing, but gotta have the butterfat for quality ice creamIt’s so true. Though, for me, it could have been so much worse had I not grown up in a French family where foods rich in saturated fat were staples. I’m not sure about conspiracies, but I know religion and beliefs regarding “purity” have played a part in the low-fat, plant-based movement. For example, the history of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and dry cereal. I found it quite disturbing to learn why certain beliefs took hold. With “authorities” promoting the reenactment of famine through self-imposed starvation, the suppression of pleasure and with it instinct, and actual beatings to comply (Dr. Walter Kempner of the Rice Diet, for example), it’s no wonder there is so much fear and confusion surrounding something as vital but basic as food.
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@Butter-Girl, thank you for linking the videos. I had heard of Dr. Bright before, but hadn’t looked at her work. I know some aren’t a fan of following cravings, but I’ve done a lot of work clearing out old beliefs and getting to a place where I trust mine. I’ve even had blood work validate that I was right to trust my cravings. For example, last December I came down with a virus and began craving beef teriyaki and hotdogs, meat being a food I rarely crave, and bloodwork revealed that I had an iron deficiency. My ferritin level was almost non-existent.
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@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Jennifer said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@Butter-Girl said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
@sphagnum said in If You Are Eating A Higher Saturated Fat Diet, Is It Really So Bad To Have FFA Circulating?:
You asked two different questions, and made related statements so I’m not sure exactly which part(s) you wanted directly answered.
I would agree that saturated fat is both safe, and healthy when consumed in moderation. We all need dietary fat to some degree, and it’s likely by far the safest.
I would agree that saturated being a staple of many traditional diets, when those same people could have just as easily found a way to use PUFA, should encourage and not discourage its use. Many people are indoctrinated to think everything “modern” is automatically superior, though.
As for FFA: my very novice understanding is that any FFA, even from saturated fats, when elevated, can lead to insulin resistance which then leads to metabolic issues. What exactly would be considered “elevated,” and what dietary actions would lead you personally to that level, I couldn’t begin to guess at.
Basically, I’m asking if it is a healthy approach to eating.
Having saturated fat in my diet now has done so many positive things for me. I used to avoid fats of all kinds thinking they were “bad”, but studying Peat’s approach and seeing good results for myself, I like it.
I’m just wondering about the “amount” of saturated fat though.
How much is safe for the liver and how much is not?
I understand the latest science is saying saturated fat is not bad for the heart like we were told for the last 50+ years.
How much FFA for saturated fat is considered healthy for the body?
There are a lot of conflicting comments because there are those who still say “only” low fat is good.Well, what’s correct?
To fat or not to fat, that is the question.
Going by what you’ve shared here, in your case, to fat. In my case, to fat. And having spent two decades in the low-fat, high-carb, plant-based community, for many women I know of, to fat. The amount of women who lost their period, only to have it return when they increased their fat intake was sizable enough to not only take notice, but come to expect it. I also know of quite a few men in the community whose libido disappeared and returned after they started incorporating coconut regularly in their diet. The women don’t often talk about their libido so I can’t comment on their experience in that regard, but mine matches the men’s in that saturated fat intake, especially from coconut, positively affects the quality of my libido, i.e., improves the intensity and frequency of orgasms. Same with carbs, especially from fruit. Fat also satiates me and overall, makes me my happiest. For me, ice cream without cream is no ice cream, and life without ice cream is no life. You’ll find plenty of “science” in support of and against fat so I’d say trust your experience above all else.
You sound like me- your history. We woman have had it drummed into our heads that (good saturated) fat is taboo. Almost a conspiracy isn’t it?
About fat and libido, omygosh yes! Fat is well amazing
Yeah, I don’t know anyone who can eat “icy” ice cream.
A sorbet is one thing, but gotta have the butterfat for quality ice creamIt’s so true. Though, for me, it could have been so much worse had I not grown up in a French family where foods rich in saturated fat were staples. I’m not sure about conspiracies, but I know religion and beliefs regarding “purity” have played a part in the low-fat, plant-based movement. For example, the history of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and dry cereal. I found it quite disturbing to learn why certain beliefs took hold. With “authorities” promoting the reenactment of famine through self-imposed starvation, the suppression of pleasure and with it instinct, and actual beatings to comply (Dr. Walter Kempner of the Rice Diet, for example), it’s no wonder there is so much fear and confusion surrounding something as vital but basic as food.
Very interesting what you’ve mentioned. I’ll have to look into the history of Dr. Kellogg as well. I had heard of Dr. Kempner’s Rice Diet, but “beatings to comply”? That doesn’t sound good.
Yes, with the low fat, plant based movement, it seems that there’s this elitism attached to it. Like you are a more virtuous person if you eat only plants LOL.
I know the Seventh Day Adventists follow this way of thinking. Kinda crazy if you ask me. -
@Butter-Girl, yep, Dr. Kempner openly admitted to whipping his patients to adhere to what he described as a “monotonous and tasteless diet which would never become popular” because he thought “the risk to their life was so great that it warranted harshness.”
The current incarnation of Kempner’s protocol is just as alarming, IMO. The Rice Diet is a meager 800–1000 calories a day:
“The rice diet consists of rice, grains, fruits, vegetables and beans, with an option of fish available on Saturday evenings. The diet provides 800-1000 calories a day, 5-10 percent of which derive from fat and 5-20 percent from protein. Sodium intake is extremely low on the rice diet, which contributes to the diet's success, but also mandates careful medical monitoring.”
There are quite a few well-known, plant-based practitioners who were Seventh-day Adventists. I followed a protocol developed by a practitioner who was a Seventh-day Adventist and like the other Seventh-day practitioners, his religious beliefs are woven throughout his work, something I was unaware of when I started following it. He even discussed racial purity and at that point, I was done with it. Natural Hygiene also has a strong focus on purity as the movement began in the 1830s, a very puritanical time period. One of its first pioneers was Sylvester Graham, inventor of the graham cracker who also influenced John Harvey Kellogg. A more virtuous person if you eat only plants is a good way of putting it. It’s more about morality than science.
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I also feel best when I eat a lot of fat. Definitely trust your instincts on it.
