@Jaffe said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

Quick update. I'm still on 6 TBSPs of glucose 3 to 4 times a day. I've been taking my temperature again lately and am amazed. My afternoon temps are running 99° to 99.3°. I used to take thyroid (T3), maybe 10 years ago, and my temps were still in the dumpster. The thyroid didn't do much for me. So I've had an aha moment. In order for thyroid to work it must have enough glucose. (RP101), so the glucose therapy is restoring thyroid function. I have never restricted sugar, never done the keto diet, but apparently my high stress levels and PUFA's were enough to wreck my metabolism. Glucose to the rescue!

Ragweed been kicking out ass lol idk why I didn’t think to try this again

Not trying to divert this topic but if you have ragweed allergies, see the thread I posted about (my) allergies and ragweed:
https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/2889/black-sseed-for-asthma-and-allergy-conditions-it-works?_=1726706798350

Black Seed For Asthma- It Really Works!

Just posting this for anyone who has seasonal allergy induced asthma or breathing problems.

From August-Sept. where I live, Ragweed is abundant and highly allergenic for me. Every year at this time I suffer thru the season, but not now.

I’ve discovered an excellent Black Seed Oil product (no I don’t sell this) that utilizes a higher form of the active ingredient Thymoquinone. I’ve tried many different homeopathic supplements and remedies for my allergies but I haven’t found a product that works as well as this.

All I can say is this really works. For my allergies.
I don’t know if it’s because it’s a particularly potent brand, but Black Seed and Black Seed Oil has a lot of research behind it for many different conditions.

This stuff is amazing.

@yerrag said in Are Nuts In Their Natural State Used Differently By The Body Than Their Processed Oils?:

I now can afford to minimization rather than a total PUFA elimination diet. I use butter, ghee, refined coconut oil, and fully hydrogenated coconut oil (especially for deep frying , though I air fry but there is no contest comparing deep to air fry).

I do the same. I’ve been avoiding PUFA for a while. I use butter/ghee for frying, but I rarely fry or saute at all.

I also use a high quality, highly rated olive oil for things like a salad. I don’t use the ordinary olive oils sold in grocery stores due to the common practice of cutting cheaper olive oil with other questionable oils.
Even though I don’t cook with any PUFA oils, I have always wondered about nuts in their natural state though. That’s why I had posted the topic.

@yerrag said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

@Butter-Girl

It’s a scary thought. Healing from the spiritual route is something we are not used to, being that we are mostly closed to material or physical healing. The more I get familiar with esoteric Christianity, the more I am open to spiritual healing as a component of our healing. One reason the powers that be keep pushing for vaccination for everything has to include separating is from the spirit.

One more reason to resist vaccination.

Definitely. The powers don’t want people actually thinking, just following. You are right. They want us disconnected to our spirits because it’s our spirit that connects us to the divine, beyond ourselves.

And this has nothing to do with religion. Religion is a man made construct. Man made, man constructed
religion has nothing to do with true spiritually imo.

Religion was formulated by certain individuals throughout the ages to control man’s spirit, and the free expression thereof. And since by nature, mankind wants to be connected to others thru validation, mankind has willingly followed the crowd. Often times to their own detriment.

Plus, eradicate one’s connection with divine Creator, ie highjack the VMAT2 gene, and you got masses of humanity under control just like you want. Slaves.

I’ll add to what I wrote….I think the difference between someone who is religious and someone who is spiritual: a religious person is motivated by the collective, what the group says to do.

The spiritual person is motivated by what their inner
cognitive self, (the soul, their intellect) is saying to them. Which is then either validated or rejected by their spirit.

As we may be familiar, the exoteric is the external. The group think.The religion think. What others tell one how to behave.
Basically a person who operates on this level lets others do their thinking for them. Think of how certain internet forums operate.
The more esoterically minded individual, is one who looks within.
Of course, people can abuse the idea of looking within by listening to the wrong voices and thus go in a direction that leads them down the wrong path.

I think you have to know yourself very well to determine what is valid for you. Much wisdom comes from personal experience, trial and error. A lot of people can come to the wrong conclusions, because they haven’t had the experiences to know what is valid or not.
They believe they are thinking for themselves when in reality their thoughts are motivated by outside influences.
Many novices think that by listening to some guru, they have arrived at the answers, but they haven’t tested for themselves, how that answer is valid or not.
A big part of receiving answers has much to do with humility. Being willing to learn from one’s mistakes. Being willing to recognise that you know very little.

@sphagnum said in Are Nuts In Their Natural State Used Differently By The Body Than Their Processed Oils?:

@Butter-Girl depending on how far you moved, there might be some trees close by. It wasn’t until I identified what a black walnut fruit looked like that I realized they’re all over around me, mostly on public land.

Yeah, I imagine an occasion single nut off the tree isn’t going to do much harm. I still wouldn’t make a habit of it, but I wouldn’t fret over it either.
Considering the work involved, most people wouldn’t bother getting to the point of overeating them straight off the tree.

I know that TerraSoul sells some nuts direct from refrigeration when you buy from their website. I used to get their Brazil nuts and keep them cold, eating one a day for selenium, after scraping the skin off *a seed/nut’s skin is where their phytic acid is concentrated, and that stuff will bind up important nutrients, including but not limited to calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and potassium. Contrary to what you read online, soaking doesn’t always fix this, especially if the seed/nut isn’t viable to sprout (heat treated/irradiated/broken/deshelled in some cases)

I definitely second what LucH said in regards to using Vitamin E to reduce harmful effects.

Yeah, I use Georgi’s Vit. E.

@sphagnum said in Are Nuts In Their Natural State Used Differently By The Body Than Their Processed Oils?:

@Butter-Girl
Are you asking about how the body uses specifically just the oil in the whole nut, as opposed to the pure oil after processing? Or are you asking about how it uses everything else in the nut as well, like the fiber and protein?

Since I'm uncertain of the exact question at hand, I'll give some general info and hope that it manages to answer in some way.

• Just about any nut (or seed) oil that is processed for consumption as a food is going to be almost all polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA.) Exceptions that I'm aware of would be macadamia nuts, and palm kernel oil. To avoid any confusion, some other food oils that are not mostly PUFA are coconut, palm, olive, and avocado oils, but these all come from the fruit flesh of the plant and not their nut/seed.

• PUFA, even when not processed, is prone to oxidation, which is in large part why it is often considered toxic to the body. Extracting the oil greatly increases its surface area exposed to oxygen, thus making it much worse in this sense. However, even whole nuts are going to be exposed enough to risk rancidity.

• As I alluded to, there is a variance in oxidation based on the level of exposure. Oil is going to be highest. Loose nuts would be next. Then nuts still in a hard shell. Finally, nuts that have the flesh in tact around the shell are generally the least oxidized. If you find a fresh black walnut fruit this time of year (early autumn in the US) and cut it open, remove the shell, then break open the shell, you will taste a walnut that is nothing like anything you've even gotten from the store, including the ones still sealed in the shell at the store.

• Heating PUFA is going to cause it to oxidize even more. I have not seen many nut or seed oils that are cold pressed, so you can assume that most of the processed nut/seed oils are going to be more toxic for this reason as well. If they are used for cooking, that is obviously taking the oxidation even farther.

• Heating, of course, is not restricted to the oils. Many nuts in their whole state are often roasted to enhance palatability. Most any nut is going to be at least steam treated or pasteurized in some way. Even packages labeled as "Raw" may have been heat treated as there is no legal definition (in the US at least) as to what "raw" means. Cashews, for example, cannot be truly raw because they contain a toxin similar to poison ivy that is only neutralized by heating them. Search for "raw cashews" online, though, and you'll get plenty of hits. Another example of this would be almonds. All USA grown almonds sold on the market must, by law, be pasteurized. So if you have California almonds (the most abundant variety domestically) and they're labeled "raw," unless you bought them direct from the farmer before heat treating, its a lie. Imported almonds aren't subject to this law in case that particular food interested you.

So, to summarize, I don't know that the body is going to "use" them any different, but the total amount of PUFA exposure, as well as how toxic it is due to oxidation, is going to vary greatly. I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that the more toxic the PUFA in the body's system during digestion, the more likely it is to be shuttled off to be stored as body fat, to avoid it causing issue anywhere else.

“If you find a fresh black walnut fruit this time of year (early autumn in the US) and cut it open, remove the shell, then break open the shell, you will taste a walnut that is nothing like anything you've even gotten from the store, including the ones still sealed in the shell at the store.

Interesting, I used to have black walnut trees around my old home, but I never tasted them.

Yeah, I was thinking that the processing of nuts might make them more detrimental than if in their natural state. But as Luch had mentioned in another comment, it could be the time element of how long the nuts are exposed to air and thus oxidized that makes it worse.

I suppose a freshly picked nut just grown on a tree and then eaten might be ok once in a while?

But unless you have nut trees around your home, you are stuck with store bought nuts that have probably already been sitting in warehouses, shelves for a long time.

@Hearthfire said in The raypeatforum.com no longer exists. It's now the LowToxinForum.com. Mrs. Peat defends Ray's legacy:

@yerrag You should take your content off the site and post it here.

I second that.

@sphagnum said in Are Nuts In Their Natural State Used Differently By The Body Than Their Processed Oils?:

@Butter-Girl
Are you asking about how the body uses specifically just the oil in the whole nut, as opposed to the pure oil after processing? Or are you asking about how it uses everything else in the nut as well, like the fiber and protein?

To be more specific, I was asking are nuts in their natural state right out of the shell, as detrimental (pufa wise) as a processed nut, aka like an oil or butter.
I would think the latter would be more detrimental to the body being processed, as opposed to a nut in it’s natural state.

That’s what I was wondering about.

@Hearthfire said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Butter-Girl

Yeah, just a domain switch.

Would be good if all the "famous" posters from over there that contributed a lot took their content down, admin doesn't own it, and judging by the "Low toxin" nonsense, he doesn't want it either.

Users own their content, he doesn't have any rights to it.

I agree. No one’s “owning it”. Particularly Lion dude forum moderator. No one’s taking responcibility for the way it was handled. It’s one thing to have a change in approach which obviously he did. Fine, believe what you want. Anyone can have a change in one’s perspective. That’s not the issue.

What is the issue is the way he handled it in such a dismissive, disrespectful, tactless way which is an insult to all the people who invested time and energy into it.

And those folks who still hang around there who didn’t call him out and gave him a pass. They’re guilty too. They look like controlled subservient little yes men and woman.

Brainwashed…….it’s just sad.

Anyway, I’m addressing the elephant in the room, but I’ll say what most of the former forum members are probably thinking but not saying here…
it really isn’t fair that the more well known posters and not so well know posters who contributed a lot of good information, and who are pro Peat in outlook, still have their previous information now lumped into a so called new branded non toxin forum (wherever the hell that means) which is the antithesis of Peat’s ideas.

Because of course, since Peat is now becoming more mainstream, someone new might have recently visited that forum and thought, hey, all these previous informative posters are down with this so called new non toxic approach.

Which again, is the antithesis of Peat’s ideas.

As I said before, it’s all so very disingenuous.

It was handled the totally wrong way by Lion dude and leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. Especially for people like Peat’s partner Katherine. It was good she contacted him. It was necessary.

The abrupt sudden about face and behavior of Charlie not addressing the “change” in a respectful manner was/is like a slap in the face to her and others associated with Peat and his work.

Disrespecting Peat, yet using Peat at the same time. You let it go on too long.

That’s shitty. Way to go Charlie.

There, got that off my chest.

@wrl said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Verdad said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Hope someone has saved all the posts and discussions somewhere because there is some great stuff there.

It looks like all the forum content has simply been moved to the new site.

No it hasn’t been moved to a new site. It’s the same ole forum. Just has a new name.