Deficiency with increased CO2
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Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
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Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything) -
@evan-hinkle said in Deficiency with increased CO2:
Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
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Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything)@evan-hinkle said in Deficiency with increased CO2:
Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
TLDR:
Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything)@evan-hinkle said in Deficiency with increased CO2:
Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
TLDR:
Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything)@evan-hinkle said in Deficiency with increased CO2:
Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
TLDR:
Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything)@evan-hinkle said in Deficiency with increased CO2:
Greetings all. Got a quick mystery that I thought I’d shoot out to you all:
I recently discovered that baking soda cures my acid reflux, (I don’t get it often, but on occasion I do if I have a few too many sugary drinks). Anyway, that was awesome, so I figured I’d push the limits on baking soda a little and it was great, til it wasn’t… After a few days of about 2 tsp I began to get dermatitis, (a symptom I haven’t experienced in a few years now).
TLDR:
Is there any known nutritional deficiency that accompanies increased CO2? (Of course it could be individual, but I wondered if anyone knew of anything)Baking soda and CO2 are different though very much tied to the hips, together with carbonic acid.
Your experience with too much baking soda will get you very alkaline in the ecf. If you had that, the lungs and kidneys excrete it in the form of CO2 thru the lungs in a rapid response and thru the kidneys in a delayed response in the form of bicarbonate. If the induced alkalinity is a one off event, the body is not so much affected than if you take that much baking soda regularly to induce a chronic alkaline state. Since this does not happen often, I find it hard to give examples of a chronic disease from it but certainly death is an extreme case outcome. One thing I can think of is of oxalate salts precipitating on joints, just as urate salts would precipitate on an acidic ecf. Another outcome I have heard of is milk alkali syndrome, though I do not understand it but you could do a search on in the old RPF.
If you breathe in too much CO2 otoh, you are likely to raise your blood pH to a point where you have to breathe at a high rate to breathe out the CO2, as the respiratory center has this reflex to increase breathing rate thinking that increased breathing will lead to more CO2 being expelled and blood pH becoming becoming alkaline (from less carbonic acid in blood).
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@evan-hinkle very helpful information, thank you. I had increased burping, (the expulsion you mentioned) and then perhaps the dermatitis was my skin attempting to expel as well?
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@yerrag weird, meant to tag you in my reply. Anyway, thanks!
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not sure about the burping as it could be gas from the gut. if you breathe with mouth closed, and you breathe easily at 14 BPM or thereabouts, your blood has the right pH. If lower, your blood is alkaline, and if higher it is acidic.
But that is based on normal human physiology, as yoga and Buteyko training can change breath rates and render the above inapplicable.
As far the dermatitis goes, I can't be certain. Np doubt CO2 come out of the skin pores, as Ray has speculated that keloids disappear when covered with a silicon patch over time due to the CO2 that permeates the keloid. In your case, perhaps the CO2 streaming out causes some metabolic waste to be expelled and the dermatitis is the skin reaction to the waste.
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@yerrag wow, this is the most interesting and thought provoking take I’ve encountered regarding CO2 and dermatitis. Earlier today I remembered that when I would bag breathe for about 10 minutes I would also develop dermatitis…
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This is one example of something good happening that on the surface would look bad. And then we go to the doctor and he tells us to take yet another drug for it lol
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@evan-hinkle Anything that increases metabolism would also increase nutritional requirements. You might need more minerals or b vitamins. Maybe potassium to balance out the increqsed sodium intake
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@yerrag I’m not sure if this sheds any further light on the subject, but I’m able to eliminate the dermatitis with activated charcoal.
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@evan-hinkle that's pretty neat! that seems to confirm there is indeed waste coming out from the skin pores.
