@Ecstatic_Hamster I’ve looked at your threads on LDN, and felt it could be something for me. I’m concerned about the sleep disruptions though, (gotta get my sleep!). Thanks for the reminder, I will look at it from a tinnitus perspective.

@S-Holmes yeah, my approach has been gut health since before the Peat days, but the tinnitus is something I became aware of in the last few years, (given my state of existence was so poor i couldn’t perceive most of my health issues). I may have had it since playing football…

I used to fast for 3-5 days before I found Peat and that seemed to help most things, (but again, my awareness was so poor, I’m sure I did plenty harm too). I think I just robbed my body of the energy to exhibit symptoms of illness. I just don’t know how long I’ve had tinnitus is my main issue there. I will continue along though!

Just an update to chime in. Dextrose has absolutely been the most effective thing I’ve done for my overall wellbeing. I was one of those “it took everything in me each day not to pick a fight with everyone types” and this has resolved 100%. It’s gone, I’m incredibly resilient to stress, and it takes exponentially more stress to agitate me now. If this is all I gain, it’s life changing.

I seem to have better glycogen storage and can go without eating longer. I used to have to snack all day to keep stress at bay and especially to keep my temper in check.

Something I’d like to see change is my tinnitus, no change there…

How I’m doing it: I take relatively large doses at different intervals during the day and taper the doses into evening. For instance, I have 4 tablespoons in 8oz on coffee in the AM, then another 4 tablespoons in a second 8oz of coffee, (this is the extent of my coffee consumption-which again is life altering from the 6-10 cups I drank in the past). I then follow the two coffees with 16oz skim milk with another 4 tablespoons of dextrose. This is a typical “breakfast” if I hungry I may have a few slices of sourdough. So a total of 12 tablespoons that I “front-load” in the AM.

I then no longer need to snack between breakfast and lunch. At lunch I flex between solid food with a beverage with 4 tablespoons of dextrose, or a giant smoothie with 4 tablespoons.

I typically have a smoothie with 4 tablespoons of dextrose around 3pm. Sometimes I don’t feel like I need it.

At dinner I will either add 2-4 tablespoons to my meal, or drink a beverage afterwards with 2-4 tablespoons.

Somewhere before bed I’ll have a snack where I add 2 tablespoons.

On days where I lift weights, (3 days a week) I drink 16oz of a beverage with 8 tablespoons of dextrose, (I sip it between sets, and finish it when I complete the workout).

Recently I decided to take a break from all supplements and I feel pretty good. I may add some back in, but I didn’t lack energy or motivation, (I feel much more resilient).

As a total side note, I’ve looked into fruits with higher ratios of glucose to fructose and I’m finding these fruits to be much more digestible for me, (and I just seem to enjoy them more as well).

So I’m not sure where to go from here. I am sold, this, for me, seems to be a missing link. I always had the same repetitive pattern with bioenergetic substances, (work briefly, eventually stop, lead to constipation). Glucose eliminates the need to balance supplements to avoid that cycle. I would LOVE to eliminate tinnitus, but I’m not sure how much dextrose would be needed to do this. I know Dr Stephens says to up the dose until symptoms subside, but I think I’d like to speak directly to him or someone else before I start pounding more than 8 tablespoons in a single dose, (who knows, maybe I’ll feel confident at some point in the future to expiriment this way).

I think some of us simply don’t convert carbs into glucose, and at least for me, no volume of fruit, starch, or thyroid medicine closed that gap.

@raytreats delts, the universal weak-point! But seriously, know, (and maybe you do) that everyone you see with “capped” delts is on juice. Once we start from that understanding we can set realistic expectations.

Almost nothing that is going to make your delts pop will be “Peaty” because they’re a unique body part that will respond differently for everyone. Some respond to 15-20 reps in light weight, some with 6-8 reps on compound movements, (like barbell press). To see what will work for you you’re gonna need to expiriment, and you should probably do so for 12 weeks at a time.

You could try:
Barbell presses in reverse pyramid
Set 1 6-8 reps at maybe 70% one rep max
Set 2 8-10 reps at maybe 60% one rep max
Set 3 10-12 reps at maybe 45% one rep max

Or:
Front side and rear laterals 3 sets of each, (9total sets) at 12-15 reps with lighter weight

Or:
You could favor “better” exercises, like the Larry Scott press that really hits the delts appropriately. (With either set or two scheme above)

Or:
You could try HIT. A warmup of barbell presses followed by a single set to failure, (failure being the inability to perform a rep with good form). This is probably the most bioenergetic approach. Mike Mentzer who popularized this method would force a client to rest (like as in a whole week) until more weight could be consistently added to the bar.

Definition and adding size frequently oppose one another as goals, so be clear about what you want, and be diligent. For more “natural” information check out Natural Hypertrophy on YouTube.

@Ismail hey man, just using regular old thiamine hcl. I’ve tried others, and they seem to work as well, but I just have to take a little more of the hcl version to get the same results.

@Mauritio just to tack on here, my wife and I could not get Lipodd out of the bottle if our life depended on it. It either came out in a jet stream negating the possibility of dosing, or not at all, (to be fair, it could have just been our bottle, but we haven’t tried it again, and unfortunately gave up on it). We did try warming the bottle in some warm water to see if it helped, but no luck.

@Mauritio your post and the next from @cs3000 are incredibly synchronistic because I am currently experimenting with both low protein and high dose thiamine. I have not used Rapa in a while, (I was having diminishing effects as time went on-though I think thiamine deficiency was an issue there-or perhaps more correctly stated: my current use of thiamine seems to be addressing the rate limiting effects I get from any pro-metabolic substance).

On Rapa I noticed stronger teeth, smoother teeth, healthier gums, faster nail growth, and better skin quality, (but after a while it lead to constipation, skin issues, teeth sensitivity, etc). Protein restriction was the exact same, better in all typical symptoms, and then worsening. Dextrose was similar, (same pattern). But, using thiamine in 1 gram doses twice a day has been different. No constipation, better skin, nail growth, improved oral health, mental clarity, verbal fluency, (all the signs I get from a pro-metabolic substance).

The very exciting part is that thiamine is allowing me to stack modalities now for healing, (or at least keeping all symptoms of low metabolism at bay). Previously if I used red light with say thyroid or high sugar, I would have a stress reaction, now, thiamine is letting me eat more, (or take dextrose in greater quantities) and then get positive effects from red light. It’s like previously anything that increased energy production would hit a roadblock, but now thiamine is simply letting me increase energy production and fuel consumption to compensate. I would be very interested to see what stacking Rapa here could do potentially.

@Sippy seems decent as a structuring device, (though I don’t have any experience with them). It’s not a water filter though, so it’s going to be much cheaper, (and if you’re on well water that tests well maybe you don’t need something like that anyway? I’m on city water, so it’s a must).

@metabolicmilk I use the standard funnel from natural action technologies. I just pass water through it 6-10 times. I’ve experimented with 20-100 times and I couldn’t tell much difference after 10.

I like the somavedic too, but I probably prefer the funnel for everyday purposes. It’s also great for travel.

@Sippy so they no longer make the whole home filter I have, (discontinued the particular model, but I can still get all the stuff I need to maintain it). I have a four stage, with an additional charcoal filter, and after it’s run through the various stages it has a structuring unit. Typically I let the water run for about 10-15 seconds if I want particularly structured water, (since the unit is in my garage and has to travel through pipes). I am on city water, (so that might have played a factor in the availability of my model).

I can’t imagine you’d need much more than a pretty standard system from them, (especially since you don’t have any flouride or chlorine to filter out. Hope you have better luck when you next touch base. Do you have a reliable plumber, or will you be installing the unit yourself?