@Serotoninskeptic I could be crazy, but I wonder if the benefit is just related to the Randle Cycle? Like think about it, the diet is zero fat til dinner. Maybe just staying in carb burning mode, and not lypolisis all day is the key vs protein fasting. I know there’s a lot of research around protein restriction and its health benefits, but as far as weight loss is concerned, eating predominantly carbs, and fasting from fat all day and not alternating back and forth between lypolisis and oxidative phosphorylation is probably more efficient?

@nothingclever it did for me too, and I started using what has to be a 64th of a teaspoon, (maybe less). Just a slight dusting. No rash anymore for me

@nothingclever I use some organic vodka on on old hand towel and sprinkle a small amount of baking soda where the towel is wet with the vodka and wipe that paste/solution into my armpit. Works great all day.

@gg12 nah, not me

@William-Shat in my personal experience: Pregnenalone, 50mg before interaction

@zaaku

A few questions:

• Did you work your way up to 1200mg/day?
• How much sugar?
• Did you make any changes to your diet during this time?
• Did you use any other supplements? B1, K2, magnesium, aspirin, thyroid, etc?
• After the two weeks, do you stop caffeine completely or settle at a baseline?
• Did you lose or gain any weight during this time?

I worked my way up over a few days, about 600 the first day, then 1000, then 1200. I noticed a blood sugar crash the first day at 1200 and ate a bunch of white rice til I felt better.

Sugar doesn’t seem to be a great fuel source for me. I like potatoes, white rice, occasional sourdough, and dextrose. I eat fruit, but it’s not my predominant carb.

Only dietary changes were adding more white rice at meals, (everything else stayed the same)

I’m always experimenting with various Peat substances, but so few of them seem to have any effect on me. During the most recent 2 week run I wasn’t doing anything else at all.

The first time I stopped caffeine completely, the second time I tried staying on at a lower level, (but eventually the lower level for longer term seemed to cause acid reflux, so I stopped).

The first time I lost 20lbs and I thought it was from the caffeine, (it happened in the months follow the experiment) but I recently did the two weeks again and experienced zero weight loss. Its possible that b vitamin supplementation at the time of the first experiment was actually responsible for the weight loss.

@zaaku on the old forum @haidut had a thread where he mentioned using caffeine to clean out the liver. I myself used this method using 1200mg/day split into three doses of 400mg at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The effect on glycogen storage is unmistakable in my opinion. After two weeks at this level I’m able to tolerate black coffee on an empty stomach, (a test for glycogen storage) and I can go longer between meals without blood sugar issues.

When I feel my liver function needs a leg up, I do this again. I’ve done it twice, (once a year for the past two years).

@Mauritio this is the very reason why I haven’t pulled the trigger yet on this test, (“wish more people were doing them”). Georgi understandably cannot comment, and many of the ratio indicators just aren’t followed by your average doctor. Heck, if you show the average doctor low cortisol like yours they’ll probably set you up for shots of cortisone, lol…

@raytreats I eliminated my chronic anger with dextrose. I am more resilient to stress than I have ever been in my adult life.

@yerrag I’m not sure if this sheds any further light on the subject, but I’m able to eliminate the dermatitis with activated charcoal.