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    Luke @S.Holmes
    last edited by Luke Nov 7, 2024, 3:32 PM Nov 7, 2024, 3:30 PM

    @S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

    DJT hates toxic, ecosystem destroying wind turbines, pedophiles, and baby rapists (just to start). I'm expecting many good things once upside down clown world is done with its engineered, collective melt-down.

    Mr. Warpspeed also loves his "beautiful vaccine" and is involved in the greatest mass murder in the history of mankind. I don't think he has ever apologized for his role in this and I don't think raypeatforum hero Kennedy Jr. has ever addressed this publicly since he endorsed Trump. Some people forget very quickly.

    But I have to admit, the mental breakdown of "liberals" yesterday was a sight to behold.

    I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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      Rah1woot @Luke
      last edited by Rah1woot Nov 7, 2024, 3:54 PM Nov 7, 2024, 3:50 PM

      @Luke

      This is why I think the true hope of politics lies in international conflict.

      China, Russia, for ex, did not give out Pfizer/mRNA vaccines. Or at least at not nearly the level of the US.

      Are those nations "completely pure"? No, absolutely not. But such is the dialectical nature of progression and conflict.

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        S.Holmes @Luke
        last edited by S.Holmes Nov 7, 2024, 3:55 PM Nov 7, 2024, 3:50 PM

        @Luke said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

        @S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

        DJT hates toxic, ecosystem destroying wind turbines, pedophiles, and baby rapists (just to start). I'm expecting many good things once upside down clown world is done with its engineered, collective melt-down.

        Mr. Warpspeed also loves his "beautiful vaccine" and is involved in the greatest mass murder in the history of mankind. I don't think he has ever apologized for his role in this and I don't think raypeatforum hero Kennedy Jr. has ever addressed this publicly since he endorsed Trump. Some people forget very quickly.

        But I have to admit, the mental breakdown of "liberals" yesterday was a sight to behold.

        Operation Warpspeed actually saved us. (I'm a lifelong ANTI-vaxxer.) When you are forced to choose the lesser evil, what can you do? If he had not initiated Warpspeed we would STILL be in lockdown, waiting on lengthy drug trials to be completed. Many millions would have been without food and other necessities, cut off from their family/support network. (That was the plan to destroy America and the world.) SO MANY businesses and lives were destroyed during the short lockdown. The world would look very different now if DJT hadn't made the tough choice. And although he had nothing whatsoever to do with the plandemic, he would have been blamed no matter what he decided to do.

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          Luke @Rah1woot
          last edited by Luke Nov 7, 2024, 4:03 PM Nov 7, 2024, 4:01 PM

          @Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

          @Luke

          This is why I think the true hope of politics lies in international conflict.

          China, Russia, for ex, did not give out Pfizer/mRNA vaccines. Or at least at not nearly the level of the US.

          Are those nations "completely pure"? No, absolutely not. But such is the dialectical nature of progression and conflict.

          I believe that most of the USA/Nato/West vs. BRICS conflict is a hoax to create a false binary and that they have the same goals.

          This recent article sums it up pretty well in my opinion: https://off-guardian.org/2024/11/02/would-you-like-to-know-what-brics-just-declared/

          I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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            Rah1woot @Luke
            last edited by Rah1woot Nov 7, 2024, 4:26 PM Nov 7, 2024, 4:08 PM

            @Luke That is a fair belief. More-or-less what I used to think.

            I have since been convinced by the actions of these nations (rather than their word) that they use such language to get the WEF people off of their back. China makes something like 54% of world's steel. And so transacting business with the elites on their terms is necessary for the time being.

            Admittedly not all BRICS nations can be considered equal in this regard. India is literally ruled by overt fascism. It amuses me to think that the Hitlerite program has been largely realized in India. Do they want to be like India?

            But I digress.

            Here is Hillary Clinton talking on the subject (China):

            https://x.com/ChathamHouse/status/1390284424806289410

            We tried. We let them into the World Trade Organization. ... They are a controlled top-down economy.

            i.e., "their top-down control doesn't let us get an angle inside."

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              bot-mod
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              Probably a better and far more entertaining parking spot than lmao-Kam.

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                Corngold @S.Holmes
                last edited by Nov 7, 2024, 6:30 PM

                @S-Holmes said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

                If he had not initiated Warpspeed we would STILL be in lockdown, waiting on lengthy drug trials to be completed.

                The vaccine, the covid seasonal flu hoax, 5G, digital id, internet of bodies, etc it's the same event.

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                  Corngold @Luke
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                  @Luke said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

                  false binary

                  Agree. The west has always been collaborating with east/Communist countries to destabilize and conquer autonomous outlier countries.

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                    bot-mod @Corngold
                    last edited by Nov 7, 2024, 6:48 PM

                    @Corngold said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

                    The vaccine, the covid seasonal flu hoax, 5G, digital id, internet of bodies, etc it's the same event.

                    Ok but 2 parts are in the future and 5 are optional. Just don't let the optional part change before someone has a better idea.

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                      Rah1woot @Corngold
                      last edited by Rah1woot Nov 7, 2024, 8:31 PM Nov 7, 2024, 7:09 PM

                      @Corngold At risk of sounding like a Brezhnev-era apparatchik... I might word the premise:

                      Agree. The west has always been collaborating with east/Communist countries to destabilize and conquer autonomous outlier countries.

                      As more like:

                      Being an autonomous outlier makes you conquerable.

                      So the ultimate, long-horizon question is not how we should make ourselves independent of the system, because that is a fantasy. We are all constrained by universal gravitation. But instead how we can control and meld the system. The process of struggle. Of Jihad in the Muslim system. Closest Anglosphere theology is "Crusade".

                      I used to think myself some kind of Anarchist. Thought that the crucible of capitalism could produce technologies (e.g., Solar Panels) that could free people from the torment of the system (this is true), but could then apply without continual integration. But the project of eliminating "unjust, unwarranted hierarchy (but not the just hierarchies!)" is an idealist fantasy not unlike creating contradiction-free speech. Solar Panels are all made in giant massively vertically integrated factories in China. Our regime just imposed a 25% tariff on them.

                      Obtaining ultimate and universal power is not optional. This power has a defined shape. Communism. It will be a Phase Change of the state of the world.

                      https://x.com/leecronin/status/1832603599769158126

                      The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

                      The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians’ intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

                      The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

                      The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

                      The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

                      The weapons with which the bourgeoisie felled feudalism to the ground are now turned against the bourgeoisie itself.

                      But not only has the bourgeoisie forged the weapons that bring death to itself; it has also called into existence the men who are to wield those weapons — the modern working class — the proletarians.

                      Marx

                      And so on.

                      Understanding and changing the world without an honest appraisal of Marxism and Materialism is fighting with one hand behind your back.

                      The differentiated, hierarchical structure of the human body as a Communism of its individual cells, versus yeast-like cancer. The unity of the once independent mitochondria and nucleus to form the eukaryote.

                      https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2024/04/17/scientists-discover-first-nitrogen-fixing-organelle/

                      It has all happened before.

                      The only question is, how do the individual cells of the body feel about their condition?

                      A bonus on Goethe. Since I mentioned Islam. Not Muslim myself but it is stimulating.

                      https://medium.com/@SaidAbdulLatif/goethes-embrace-of-islam-7421196b1d88

                      And Tolstoy.

                      https://www.honeyfromparadise.com/tolstoy-on-islam/

                      I think all of it is related to Materialism. Especially if we take Julian Jaynes' conclusions in Origin of Consciousness to be correct.

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                        bot-mod @Rah1woot
                        last edited by Nov 7, 2024, 7:30 PM

                        @Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

                        The process of struggle.

                        The personal one might avoid the 'jihad'. Some reference points and feedback would be useful.

                        Understanding and changing the world without an honest appraisal of Marxism and Materialism is fighting with one hand behind your back.

                        Some corporate law wouldn't go amiss. In understanding communication problems at least. Soviet's had theirs.

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                          Rah1woot @bot-mod
                          last edited by Rah1woot Nov 7, 2024, 7:40 PM Nov 7, 2024, 7:34 PM

                          @ThinPicking

                          I don't know if you are aware, but while this word relates to insurgency, it more generally refers to a theological concept of (any kind of) struggle as well.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

                          Some corporate law wouldn't go amiss. In understanding communication problems at least. Soviet's had theirs.

                          Mm, indeed.

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                            bot-mod @Rah1woot
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                            Thank you. I ought to have been for reading but I'm partial to Team America impressions. Being a silly moron is probably pivotal to my cardiac maintenance.

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                              A Former User @Corngold
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                                  bot-mod @A Former User
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                                  Controlling for experimental meds, altered ARDS protocol, terrifying messaging, vile division and vitriol, I'd be interested in evidence on a postcard that it wasn't sneedster.

                                  When the Lancet described it a syndemic, I wished I'd been paying more attention to the world around me in the years prior.

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                                    A Former User @bot-mod
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                                    @ThinPicking mayhaps.

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                                      Corngold @Rah1woot
                                      last edited by Nov 8, 2024, 12:43 AM

                                      @Rah1woot said in What do you guys think of Trump now that he won:

                                      But the project of eliminating "unjust, unwarranted hierarchy (but not the just hierarchies!)" is an idealist fantasy not unlike creating contradiction-free speech. Solar Panels are all made in giant massively vertically integrated factories in China. Our regime just imposed a 25% tariff on them.

                                      True, there will always be over-lords, even in an agrarian communitarian situation. Lone-wolf existence is a total anomaly in nature, so I can see the complex history of "socialism" as just a new, dirty name for what was Republicanism in Medieval and modern times, and even ancient Greece and Rome.
                                      It seems like a good solar panel or ionospheric energy generator is possible, not to mention water as fuel. But I do know the current solar panel / green energy industry is a total money laundering scheme, part of the "carbon credit" global scheme. I sense that the WEF views Earth as a small high school class of about 200 students; there are about 200 countries, right? Well, I guess the levels of power are sort of like the upper classes you don't see or know, but certainly exist.

                                      I'm not sure if those stories are all true about people who made car engines that could run on water, and then died mysteriously, but when you see companies trying to use hydrogen as fuel it makes you wonder. Fuel comes from oil and plastics are also made of recycled plastic or fresh, from oil. And many other things are made from oil or plastic, like polyester which supplies bedding, clothing, cars... everything is basically a cheap replica of what was once real.

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                                        Rah1woot @Corngold
                                        last edited by Rah1woot Nov 8, 2024, 4:02 AM Nov 8, 2024, 4:00 AM

                                        It seems like a good solar panel or ionospheric energy generator is possible, not to mention water as fuel. But I do know the current solar panel / green energy industry is a total money laundering scheme, part of the "carbon credit" global scheme.

                                        Low Tech Magazine reported on one example of a lesser-known solar panel design.

                                        https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2021/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-solar-panel/

                                        Fuel comes from oil and plastics are also made of recycled plastic or fresh, from oil. And many other things are made from oil or plastic, like polyester which supplies bedding, clothing, cars... everything is basically a cheap replica of what was once real.

                                        A bonus from them on using plastic waste as fuel.

                                        https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2023/11/plastic-waste-in-the-fuel-tank/

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                                          Peatful
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                                          We all know
                                          Politics…
                                          Ideologies…
                                          Just a means to the end

                                          What happens to you in the End?

                                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                          -DB

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