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    What makes one unable to get brainwashed?

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      @Androsclerozat if you're having trouble convincing people of things you may just need to go a bit deeper in trying to understand where they're coming from. Before you try again differently or let it be.

      And if you want to go back to "sleep". You can. Just remove your attention, stop moving and be patient.

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        @ThinPicking convincing people of things even if they are legit is sometimes not a great idea.

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          Yes thank you sneedy. Where would the world be without your valuable wisdom. Even if you Love them, it's probably better to leave someone believing they have super long tripple covid due to a biotech guy dropping a pippett from a fume cupboard in fluhan.

          @ThinPicking said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

          or let it be

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            @ThinPicking im assuming you have people in your life who have decent emotional intelligence. for you to talk to me from that position like i dont know what im talking about is fucking funny to me. there’s an honest pragmatism that comes in not rocking the boat, that youd know is legit if youd have seen the shit ive seen.

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              @the_black_jew said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

              for you to talk to me from that position is fucking funny to me

              Of course it is. That's the point in humour.

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                the_black_jew @bot-mod
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                @ThinPicking sorry about that. I was hungry.

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                  bot-mod @the_black_jew
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                  Ray Peat right again.

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                    Androsclerozat @the_black_jew
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                    @the_black_jew by brainwashing I mean a person who can't change his point of view although evidence is presented that shows the opposite, just because he trusts fully the system (or a person) and can't allow himself to criticize it.

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                      @ThinPicking said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                      What is discipline anyway, in a soft or stark form.

                      So you think discipline is free will.
                      If we use the discipline to choose what's good for us, then our choice is guided by the pro's and con's. That means we don't actually have free will into choosing good or bad. It's guided by nature in order to survive.

                      Now, another example, let's think about going to vacation, you don't care if Greece or Italy because you see them at the same level. In that case you will choose randomly, or maybe you will try to find the tiniest reason to choose one rather than another, like time flying.

                      In any case, you are guided by reasons pro's and contra's.

                      Another example, maybe you want to go vacation now or after 3 months when it's 30% cheaper. In this case, you will be guided by serotonin (as haidut said, serotonin plays a role in delayed gratification), and not your choice.

                      Is there willpower? Yes, but it's used when we do what we don't like. It's limited because we suffer.

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                          @Androsclerozat said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                          So you think discipline is free will.

                          No. You're not understanding at all.

                          Enjoy your hobby chap.

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                            @Androsclerozat what is the serotonin and delayed gratification connection

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                              @ThinPicking said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                              @Androsclerozat said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                              So you think discipline is free will.

                              No. You're not understanding at all.

                              Enjoy your hobby chap.

                              Chill out, it's fine if you're not able to explain it clearly. It's a hard topic.

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                                @the_black_jew said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                                @Androsclerozat what is the serotonin and delayed gratification connection

                                https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/serotonin-is-the-driver-of-futile-patience-and-delayed-gratification.24282/

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                                  the_black_jew @Androsclerozat
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                                  @Androsclerozat thx bruh

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                                    @Androsclerozat said in What makes one unable to get brainwashed?:

                                    Chill out

                                    I'm sorry man. My serioustonein is so low I'm struggling with futile patience.

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                                      I guess it depends on what is meant by "brainwashing", right? I started to sort of see cracks and lies in the mainstream from around 13 but it was also the start of a terrible depression streak for me and I was FAR away from being healtht or having a good metabolism.

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