Random, interesting studies

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@Mauritio said:

Dosage: HED was roughly around 1g/day of the essential oils in all cited studies.

1g of oregano/thyme/satureja EO every day is possible if dissolved evenly among a whole day's drinking water amount to not disintegrate one's mucosa but it's certainly not fun. About 10 drops per liter.

Mauritio

@Lejeboca i thought so too but then why are there studies using isolated Carvacrol having no effect ?

Lejeboca

@Mauritio, perhaps minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) wasn't reached?
A study of the minimum inhibitory concentration and mode of action of oregano essential oil, thymol and carvacrol

Hard to hypothesize, in general, however. Do you have any specific study in mind you'd like us to look at?

Mauritio

@Lejeboca
Here is a Carvacrol only study, looking at Testosterone.
Fortunetly they used the same dosage (~around 1g HED) in this study.
And it showed no T increase for healthy animals but a strong increase in diabetic animals. So it had a restorative effect .

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32153207/

But this still doesn't explain the 5X increase in the first study.
And the other rat study I posted also showed strong T increase in different dosages. So it doesn't seem to be a species related effect.

So with the satureja EO we see a T increase no matter if the animals are healthy and with Carvacrol only in unhealthy animals.

You can just buy an 80-90% Carvacrol orehano oil for 20-30 bucks so it should be easy to see if this works on humans.

LucH

@Mauritio said:

You can just buy an 80-90% Carvacrol orehano oil for 20-30 bucks so it should be easy to see if this works on humans.

Yes, could try but for sure you''l kill nearly the whole living stuff in your microbiome. Nearly all the phyla. The stronger will remain and occupy the place. And guess what would happen if you don't manage well afterwards... Nature abhores an empty place ...

useful info (decoding the study):
Reasons the Mouse Study is Irrelevant (or Misunderstood)
In healthy rodents, it actually lowers testosterone: Studies on healthy rats show that concentrated oregano essential oil causes testicular tissue injury and directly decreases serum testosterone levels. [1]
• It only fixes "broken" rats, it does not boost healthy ones: The rodent studies showing that carvacrol (the main compound in oregano) supports testosterone were done on rats that were explicitly poisoned with toxins, made diabetic, or subjected to extreme stress. In those cases, oregano acted as an antioxidant to protect damaged testicular cells. It does not increase baseline testosterone in healthy individuals. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• High doses actually lower testosterone: In studies on healthy rats, high oral doses of oregano essential oil actually caused reproductive toxicity, damaged Leydig cells, and significantly decreased serum testosterone levels and sperm counts. [1, 2]
• The delivery mechanism is totally different: Rodent studies often bypass the regular digestive process or use highly controlled extracts. When a human swallows a concentrated essential oil, it hits the stomach and upper intestines directly, wiping out the microbiota long before any theoretical benefit could ever reach the bloodstream.

Reproductive Toxicity Assessment of Origanum vulgare Essential Oil on Male Wistar Rats.
June 2015
Acta Scientiae Veterinariae 27(80):3-1

Mauritio

Glutamine

Glutamine seems helpful for preventing /treating cholestasis, gall stone formation, leaky gut and to decrease endotoxin absorption.
Peaty staples like gelatin and scallops actually have high amounts of glutamin.

"..the addition of glutamine to TPN solution can remarkably decrease the incidence, or ameliorate TPN induced cholestasis, and prevent small intestinal mucosal atrophy."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8223015/

"Addition of glutamine to the TPN solution prevents these lithogenic changes."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7745961/

"Depletion of glutamine results in villus atrophy, decreased expression of tight junction proteins and increased intestinal permeability. Moreover, glutamine supplementation can improve gut barrier function in several experimental conditions of injury and in some clinical situations. Furthermore, preventive effects of glutamine in experimental models of intestinal injuries have been recently reported."
https://www.ovid.com/jnls/co-clinicalnutrition/abstract/10.1097/mco.0000000000000339~glutamine-and-the-regulation-of-intestinal-permeability-from?redirectionsource=fulltextview

"Meanwhile, Gln administration alleviated liver injury, reduced the hepatic inflammatory response by inhibiting NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreased hepatic lipid accumulation by promoting VLDL secretion and fatty acid β-oxidation, as well as reduced bile acid synthesis by activating hepatic and ileal FXR in HFD-fed rats. Moreover, Gln administration restored HFD-induced intestinal barrier dysfunction, promoted intestinal fat absorption, suppressed intestinal inflammation, and also reshaped the gut microbiota composition in HFD-fed rats by downregulating the abundance of potential pathogens Escherichia-Shigella and upregulating the abundance of beneficial bacteria such as Akkermansia."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36122193/

LucH

@Mauritio said:

Glutamine seems helpful for preventing /treating cholestasis, gall stone formation, leaky gut and to decrease endotoxin absorption.
Peaty staples like gelatin and scallops actually have high amounts of glutamin.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.
One caveat: No glutamine if you're dealing with dysbiosis, often present with leaky gut. First be aware of the absence of candidosis. Glutamine is going to feed the beast.
The first sign of candida albicans is often seen with a white tongue. Test with spitting in a glass water.
One tip: When I take 500 mg glutamine powder (thin stomach lining => pain), I combine it with 500 mg taurine, on a empty stomach. I prevent the neuro-exciting effect and I introduce a high-effective AO for the brain. (500-1000 mg dose).

Mauritio

@LucH said:

First be aware of the absence of candidosis. Glutamine is going to feed the beast.

So does sugar - theoretically. That doesn't stop me from eating sugar.

Besides, in this study on people in a ICU, people that received glutamine did not developed more but fewer candida infections. And 0 people that did develope a candida infection endep up dieing, whereas 6 people from the control group died.

"In those patients, despite a similar high incidence of colonization with Candida, those receiving glutamine developed fewer Candida infections and none died, whereas six control patients who developed Candida infections died from multiple organ failure ..."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12093428/

LucH

@Mauritio said:

So does sugar - theoretically. That doesn't stop me from eating sugar.

Misunderstanding. most people aren't aware of 2 contraindications when taking glutamine supplement. No real problem if you don't already suffer from candidosis.