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    • MauritioM
      Mauritio
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      Potatoes is as good as it gets for starch. But Im gravitating more and more towards no starch. Kind of happened organically , and it seems to be good for metabolism and digestion .

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        Corngold @Mauritio
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        @Mauritio

        Did you cut starch entirely, or are you replacing it with carbs?

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        • JenniferJ
          Jennifer @Luke
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          @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

          I like the one where his plumber was going to retire because he had cartilage damage in his knee or something like that. Ray gave him a bottle of Progest-E to rub it in. A few days later the plumber visited Ray and ran up and down his stairs to show him that he had no pain anymore. He was still working as a plumber ten years later or so.

          Progest-E is amazing for pain. While doing yard work, my dad tripped and fell on his side running from some bees and within 2 hours of me applying Progest-E to his ribs, his extreme pain was gone, and it only took one application daily to keep the pain away. Eight months later when he was diagnosed with cancer and had a CT scan to check if it had metastasized, the scan revealed that his ribs had fractured from the fall so it’s quite something for Progest-E to take away the pain of broken ribs. Progest-E is the only supplement that eliminates my migraines and the chronic pain I had from my spine collapsing in 2009. Unfortunately, it messes with my cycle so I rely on a certain diet to stay pain and migraine free, but I always have a bottle in the fridge for emergencies.

          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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            LetTheRedeemed @Jennifer
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            @Jennifer awesome story! I’m curious tho…
            edit: can you use prog in certain times in the cycle?

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            • LukeL
              Luke @Jennifer
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              @Jennifer said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

              @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

              I like the one where his plumber was going to retire because he had cartilage damage in his knee or something like that. Ray gave him a bottle of Progest-E to rub it in. A few days later the plumber visited Ray and ran up and down his stairs to show him that he had no pain anymore. He was still working as a plumber ten years later or so.

              Progest-E is amazing for pain. While doing yard work, my dad tripped and fell on his side running from some bees and within 2 hours of me applying Progest-E to his ribs, his extreme pain was gone, and it only took one application daily to keep the pain away. Eight months later when he was diagnosed with cancer and had a CT scan to check if it had metastasized, the scan revealed that his ribs had fractured from the fall so it’s quite something for Progest-E to take away the pain of broken ribs. Progest-E is the only supplement that eliminates my migraines and the chronic pain I had from my spine collapsing in 2009. Unfortunately, it messes with my cycle so I rely on a certain diet to stay pain and migraine free, but I always have a bottle in the fridge for emergencies.

              I would like to try it on my shoulder and upper back, but couldn't get my hands on a bottle yet. I guess the Progesterone creams on the internet aren't even close to having the same absorption and effect.

              I hope your dad is doing all right.

              I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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              • MauritioM
                Mauritio @Corngold
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                @Corngold said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                @Mauritio

                Did you cut starch entirely, or are you replacing it with carbs?

                As my (liver) health has gotten better I naturally gravitated towards less starch. I used to crave starch for EVERY meal, now I go some days without it or minimal amounts.
                I replaced starch mostly with dairy (yogurt, pudding, ice cream,...) so that should help the calcium/phosphorus as well.

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  LetTheRedeemed @Mauritio
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                  @Mauritio I wonder if as the liver stores glycogen better, the need for slower digesting carbs to maintain blood glucose longer is less necessary.

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio @LetTheRedeemed
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                    @LetTheRedeemed yes, I think this is pretty much what it is about.
                    Starch causes a higher insulin release and insulin causes glycogen synthesis.

                    Dare to think.

                    My X:
                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                    • JenniferJ
                      Jennifer @LetTheRedeemed
                      last edited by Jennifer

                      @LetTheRedeemed said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                      @Jennifer awesome story! I’m curious tho…
                      edit: can you use prog in certain times in the cycle?

                      I’ve tried taking it on days 14-28 of my cycle, all month long, transdermally, orally, vaginally, and doses of one drop a day to as much as a bottle a week, but I get the same result—excessive bleeding every 2 weeks and overarousal. My estrogen and prolactin (tissue bound estrogen) levels have always been low/normal so my body’s reaction to Progest-E makes little sense to me, but my periods and libido are perfect without it so I feel lucky that I’m able to achieve the same pain relief via my diet.

                      I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                      • JenniferJ
                        Jennifer @Luke
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                        @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                        @Jennifer said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                        @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                        I like the one where his plumber was going to retire because he had cartilage damage in his knee or something like that. Ray gave him a bottle of Progest-E to rub it in. A few days later the plumber visited Ray and ran up and down his stairs to show him that he had no pain anymore. He was still working as a plumber ten years later or so.

                        Progest-E is amazing for pain. While doing yard work, my dad tripped and fell on his side running from some bees and within 2 hours of me applying Progest-E to his ribs, his extreme pain was gone, and it only took one application daily to keep the pain away. Eight months later when he was diagnosed with cancer and had a CT scan to check if it had metastasized, the scan revealed that his ribs had fractured from the fall so it’s quite something for Progest-E to take away the pain of broken ribs. Progest-E is the only supplement that eliminates my migraines and the chronic pain I had from my spine collapsing in 2009. Unfortunately, it messes with my cycle so I rely on a certain diet to stay pain and migraine free, but I always have a bottle in the fridge for emergencies.

                        I would like to try it on my shoulder and upper back, but couldn't get my hands on a bottle yet. I guess the Progesterone creams on the internet aren't even close to having the same absorption and effect.

                        I hope your dad is doing all right.

                        Thank you, Luke. 🙂 My dad is doing great. It’s too bad that you haven’t been able to try Progest-E. Diet modifications don’t eliminate your shoulder and upper back symptoms, huh?

                        I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                        • LukeL
                          Luke @Jennifer
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                          @Jennifer said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          @Jennifer said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          I like the one where his plumber was going to retire because he had cartilage damage in his knee or something like that. Ray gave him a bottle of Progest-E to rub it in. A few days later the plumber visited Ray and ran up and down his stairs to show him that he had no pain anymore. He was still working as a plumber ten years later or so.

                          Progest-E is amazing for pain. While doing yard work, my dad tripped and fell on his side running from some bees and within 2 hours of me applying Progest-E to his ribs, his extreme pain was gone, and it only took one application daily to keep the pain away. Eight months later when he was diagnosed with cancer and had a CT scan to check if it had metastasized, the scan revealed that his ribs had fractured from the fall so it’s quite something for Progest-E to take away the pain of broken ribs. Progest-E is the only supplement that eliminates my migraines and the chronic pain I had from my spine collapsing in 2009. Unfortunately, it messes with my cycle so I rely on a certain diet to stay pain and migraine free, but I always have a bottle in the fridge for emergencies.

                          I would like to try it on my shoulder and upper back, but couldn't get my hands on a bottle yet. I guess the Progesterone creams on the internet aren't even close to having the same absorption and effect.

                          I hope your dad is doing all right.

                          Thank you, Luke. 🙂 My dad is doing great. It’s too bad that you haven’t been able to try Progest-E. Diet modifications don’t eliminate your shoulder and upper back symptoms, huh?

                          I can keep it in check by doing certain exercises and avoiding other movements (overhead, like handstands). But often I'm too lazy or forget about it. I never noticed any differences when changing my diet.

                          But I wonder what the exact mechanism of Progest-E is. There seems to be more going on than pain relief. In the story with the plumber it seemed that he had serious structural damage, and the application of on bottle of Progest-E fixed it permanently. Almost like it fixed the damage.

                          I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                          • JenniferJ
                            Jennifer @Luke
                            last edited by Jennifer

                            @Luke, how is your thyroid function?

                            This is probably an overly simplistic explanation, but my mechanistic guess is that progesterone is anabolic, supporting the thyroid/parathyroid glands, the main glands responsible for the integrity of all connective tissues in the body, and lowering the catabolic hormones cortisol, adrenaline etc. The plumber’s thyroid may have been healthy enough for Progest-E to reverse the damage. For someone like myself who was chronically hypothyroid, Progest-E provided only temporary relief.

                            I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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