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Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?

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    Turk @bot-mod
    last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 7:44 PM

    @ThinPicking My Macros had been around 60C/25P/15F, carbs were about 380g avg, mostly from skim milk and coke, some potatoes and sourdough. I take cynoplus, about 110mg of a 160mg tablet, per day.

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      Turk @Peatful
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        Turk @bio3nergetic
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        @bio3nergetic Interesting, I havent eaten liver in months, so it would be interesting if it is copper. I will eat some perhaps tomorrow.

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          Turk @Turk
          last edited by Turk Mar 28, 2025, 7:52 PM Mar 28, 2025, 7:51 PM

          @Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

          Most nights I have to get up to pee, 1am, 2am, 4am most of the time, but have noticed when I drink wine, usually half or a full bottle, I dont need to wake up to pee. Does anyone know why this helps?

          I also gave up alcohol for Lent (except on Sundays and 1st class feast days) so it's worse that I can only fix the problem once a week. I appreciate everyone's help, will experiment.

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            Corngold @Turk
            last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 9:15 PM

            @Turk
            milk, sugar, maybe fruit and honey w coconut oil or ice-cream. I have a similar issue and I'm wondering anout the kidney's role in night time activity. Baking soda helps but I don't always remember.

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              Corngold @Turk
              last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 9:16 PM

              @Turk or shellfish, which is also Lent friendly and has lots of minerals.

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                Turk @Corngold
                last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 9:22 PM

                @Corngold I usually have prawns every friday

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                  Corngold @Turk
                  last edited by Apr 1, 2025, 2:02 AM

                  @Turk

                  nice. what about glycine / gelatin?

                  Analyze and Optimize posted:

                  If you can't stay asleep (or wake up to pee), you need to try glycine.

                  3g before bed reduces:
                  ⬩Night time urination
                  ⬩Urination urgency
                  ⬩Blood pressure

                  Glycine is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that keeps us in restful sleep.

                  I had maybe 1-2g in milk and slept better...only awoke once. Doing the same tonight. I can say it is very calming and I'm sure I don't get enough of it.

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                    Turk @Corngold
                    last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 4:51 AM

                    @Corngold Yeah, I made a post about this on twitter, it gave me anxiety/paranoia, lol. Still had to wake up and pee tho when I took glycine in the afternoon and not at night. https://x.com/turk4201/status/1906759316620873735

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                      Corngold @Turk
                      last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 5:14 AM

                      @Turk

                      hm. the most I've noticed is a growling stomach by morning, but with milk it made me sleepy in an energized way. L-theanine I'm not sure about.

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                        tubert @bot-mod
                        last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 12:42 PM

                        @ThinPicking I am not sure anybody understood this graph or how to experiment...

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                          Corngold @tubert
                          last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 1:01 PM

                          @tubert nope because it must be down hill of nutrients too

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                            bot-mod @tubert
                            last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 1:15 PM

                            In a moment that's fair. But in a little time anyone who wants to could do. Let's make it easier. That body you're occupying is something akin to a colloidal onion.

                            IMG_20250331_155356.jpg

                            Vasopressin is also known as antidiuretic hormone. Which diminishes its function somewhat because it does lots of things and has profound behavioural effects. But perhaps they're all downstream of fluid accumulations, structures and movements in a way.

                            The graph is a target for its circadian. Which needn't necessarily follow the sun, but your behaviour and self sense.

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                              Jennifer @Turk
                              last edited by Jennifer Apr 2, 2025, 2:17 PM Apr 2, 2025, 2:12 PM

                              @Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

                              @ThinPicking My Macros had been around 60C/25P/15F, carbs were about 380g avg, mostly from skim milk and coke, some potatoes and sourdough. I take cynoplus, about 110mg of a 160mg tablet, per day.

                              Turk, have you tried switching your protein and fat percentages so a macro ratio of 60C/15P/25F? Even with Cynoplus, you may be getting too much protein for what your thyroid can handle, causing some suppression of it, and hypoglycemia during the night. Due to chronic gastritis at one point, fruit was all I could digest and it was the first time in my life that I slept through the night without needing to pee, and the most interesting thing was that I woke each morning thinking that I had just gone to bed, I had so much energy, no dreaming that I could recall that usually had me exhausted the next morning because the dreams were so vivid. It’s like my brain finally got to rest with the rest of my body. Not getting enough protein wasn’t sustainable, but fruitarianism showed me how poor my thyroid function was. Unless I’m taking quite a bit of thyroid, I have to prioritize simple carbs, saturated fats and salt too, basically, the things mainstream tells us to limit.

                              I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                Turk @Jennifer
                                last edited by Apr 3, 2025, 10:52 PM

                                @Jennifer I dont think I could ever reduce my protein that much, I drink lots of milk, specifically skim milk (2-3L/day) and I'm trying to lose weight with lower fat intake. The last 2 nights, however, I didnt need to wake up to pee after having dry red wine and ice cream before bed. I will continue to see if it really is the fix for me.

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                                  Corngold @bot-mod
                                  last edited by Apr 15, 2025, 4:43 AM

                                  @bot-mod said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

                                  Vasopressin is also known as antidiuretic hormone. Which diminishes its function somewhat because it does lots of things and has profound behavioural effects. But perhaps they're all downstream of fluid accumulations, structures and movements in a way.

                                  So are you so suggesting more fluid / food intake around the peak of vasopressin release? 8am and again at dinner, before 8pm?

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                                    Turk @Turk
                                    last edited by Turk Apr 15, 2025, 4:10 PM Apr 15, 2025, 4:10 PM

                                    For over a week I haven’t needed to pee while in bed, each day I had ice cream at 9pm and wine from 8-9:30pm. Last night I had wine only at 8pm and no ice cream and had to get up at 4am to pee. It’s nice that these 2 good foods/drink help.

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                                      ThinPicking @Corngold
                                      last edited by Apr 15, 2025, 5:00 PM

                                      Thicker when it drops, thinner when it rises. Which is what a persons senses would nudge them to do anyway. But they may have struggled with their sense of "smell" since "corona".

                                      You can also move the times on the x axis left or right of your own accord. This may have something to do with "seasonal" illness and mortality issues in shift workers.

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                                        DavidPS
                                        last edited by DavidPS Apr 16, 2025, 11:55 AM Apr 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

                                        I am wondering if you have high cortisol levels during the night. If that is the case, then the long term use of alcohol is not the best solution.
                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cortisol#

                                        https://www.verywellmind.com/heavy-drinking-increases-stress-hormone-63201

                                        In the study below, 200 mg of l-theanine had a profound effect on sleep quality. L-Theanine is found in green tea. Note the effect increased over 4 weeks.

                                        Effects of L-Theanine Administration on Stress-Related Symptoms and Cognitive Functions in Healthy Adults: A Randomized Controlled Trial (2019)
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                                        ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                                        ☂️

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                                          Turk @DavidPS
                                          last edited by Apr 16, 2025, 3:41 PM

                                          @DavidPS i mentioned this above, but L-theanine + glycine before bed gave me anxiety/adrenaline and I couldn’t sleep. I took just ice cream at 9pm last night and didn’t wake to pee!

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