Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?

Corngold

Sugar / relaxation I'm guessing
Baking soda in water before bed usually prevents this as well and gives deeper sleep.

Turk

@Corngold Baking soda used to help but no longer does

Turk

@Peatful I tried ice cream last night and that didnt help. I'm going to try and see if Taurine, glycine, L-theanine and maybe creatine before bed can help at all. I used to have Nocturia last year, then it went away with Thyroid and also baking soda worked, but now both dont help with it anymore.

ThinPicking

@Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

baking soda worked, but now both dont help with it anymore.

@ThinPicking said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

sugary and salty

All over your dinner too.

@Peatful said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

It’s sugar content is helping you keep your BS up so your adrenals aren’t kicking in

She's right about the adrenals I think, vasopressin's just an (important) piece of HPA activity. But the result is probably more than sugar when ethanol's involved.

Peatful

@Turk
What about a full mexi coke and like 1/2 a grilled cheese on sourdough

You may simply need more simple sugar
And macros of 70/15/15 c/p/f or even 80/10/10

Play around with it

But once you start getting more uninterrupted sleep
You need to figure out why your liver is depleted of glycogen

Hypothyroid?

bio3nergetic

Test to see if this is due to a copper deficiency, as that is one component to build vasopressin for example. Salt and vitamin C play a role as well, to reduce nighttime urination. Wine does have copper and often the treatments for the grapes to make that wine contain copper. If it is low copper, then see if copper foods or 1 to 3 mg copper supplement does the same thing. This way you don't have to drink wine.

Turk

@ThinPicking My Macros had been around 60C/25P/15F, carbs were about 380g avg, mostly from skim milk and coke, some potatoes and sourdough. I take cynoplus, about 110mg of a 160mg tablet, per day.

Turk

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Turk

@bio3nergetic Interesting, I havent eaten liver in months, so it would be interesting if it is copper. I will eat some perhaps tomorrow.

Turk

@Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

Most nights I have to get up to pee, 1am, 2am, 4am most of the time, but have noticed when I drink wine, usually half or a full bottle, I dont need to wake up to pee. Does anyone know why this helps?

I also gave up alcohol for Lent (except on Sundays and 1st class feast days) so it's worse that I can only fix the problem once a week. I appreciate everyone's help, will experiment.

Corngold

@Turk
milk, sugar, maybe fruit and honey w coconut oil or ice-cream. I have a similar issue and I'm wondering anout the kidney's role in night time activity. Baking soda helps but I don't always remember.

Corngold

@Turk or shellfish, which is also Lent friendly and has lots of minerals.

Turk

@Corngold I usually have prawns every friday

Corngold

@Turk

nice. what about glycine / gelatin?

Analyze and Optimize posted:

If you can't stay asleep (or wake up to pee), you need to try glycine.

3g before bed reduces:
⬩Night time urination
⬩Urination urgency
⬩Blood pressure

Glycine is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that keeps us in restful sleep.

I had maybe 1-2g in milk and slept better...only awoke once. Doing the same tonight. I can say it is very calming and I'm sure I don't get enough of it.

Turk

@Corngold Yeah, I made a post about this on twitter, it gave me anxiety/paranoia, lol. Still had to wake up and pee tho when I took glycine in the afternoon and not at night. https://x.com/turk4201/status/1906759316620873735

Corngold

@Turk

hm. the most I've noticed is a growling stomach by morning, but with milk it made me sleepy in an energized way. L-theanine I'm not sure about.

tubert

@ThinPicking I am not sure anybody understood this graph or how to experiment...

Corngold

@tubert nope because it must be down hill of nutrients too

ThinPicking

In a moment that's fair. But in a little time anyone who wants to could do. Let's make it easier. That body you're occupying is something akin to a colloidal onion.

Vasopressin is also known as antidiuretic hormone. Which diminishes its function somewhat because it does lots of things and has profound behavioural effects. But perhaps they're all downstream of fluid accumulations, structures and movements in a way.

The graph is a target for its circadian. Which needn't necessarily follow the sun, but your behaviour and self sense.

Jennifer

@Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:

@ThinPicking My Macros had been around 60C/25P/15F, carbs were about 380g avg, mostly from skim milk and coke, some potatoes and sourdough. I take cynoplus, about 110mg of a 160mg tablet, per day.

Turk, have you tried switching your protein and fat percentages so a macro ratio of 60C/15P/25F? Even with Cynoplus, you may be getting too much protein for what your thyroid can handle, causing some suppression of it, and hypoglycemia during the night. Due to chronic gastritis at one point, fruit was all I could digest and it was the first time in my life that I slept through the night without needing to pee, and the most interesting thing was that I woke each morning thinking that I had just gone to bed, I had so much energy, no dreaming that I could recall that usually had me exhausted the next morning because the dreams were so vivid. It’s like my brain finally got to rest with the rest of my body. Not getting enough protein wasn’t sustainable, but fruitarianism showed me how poor my thyroid function was. Unless I’m taking quite a bit of thyroid, I have to prioritize simple carbs, saturated fats and salt too, basically, the things mainstream tells us to limit.