Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?
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@Corngold Yeah, I made a post about this on twitter, it gave me anxiety/paranoia, lol. Still had to wake up and pee tho when I took glycine in the afternoon and not at night. https://x.com/turk4201/status/1906759316620873735
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hm. the most I've noticed is a growling stomach by morning, but with milk it made me sleepy in an energized way. L-theanine I'm not sure about.
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@ThinPicking I am not sure anybody understood this graph or how to experiment...
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@tubert nope because it must be down hill of nutrients too
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In a moment that's fair. But in a little time anyone who wants to could do. Let's make it easier. That body you're occupying is something akin to a colloidal onion.
Vasopressin is also known as antidiuretic hormone. Which diminishes its function somewhat because it does lots of things and has profound behavioural effects. But perhaps they're all downstream of fluid accumulations, structures and movements in a way.
The graph is a target for its circadian. Which needn't necessarily follow the sun, but your behaviour and self sense.
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@Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:
@ThinPicking My Macros had been around 60C/25P/15F, carbs were about 380g avg, mostly from skim milk and coke, some potatoes and sourdough. I take cynoplus, about 110mg of a 160mg tablet, per day.
Turk, have you tried switching your protein and fat percentages so a macro ratio of 60C/15P/25F? Even with Cynoplus, you may be getting too much protein for what your thyroid can handle, causing some suppression of it, and hypoglycemia during the night. Due to chronic gastritis at one point, fruit was all I could digest and it was the first time in my life that I slept through the night without needing to pee, and the most interesting thing was that I woke each morning thinking that I had just gone to bed, I had so much energy, no dreaming that I could recall that usually had me exhausted the next morning because the dreams were so vivid. It’s like my brain finally got to rest with the rest of my body. Not getting enough protein wasn’t sustainable, but fruitarianism showed me how poor my thyroid function was. Unless I’m taking quite a bit of thyroid, I have to prioritize simple carbs, saturated fats and salt too, basically, the things mainstream tells us to limit.
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@Jennifer I dont think I could ever reduce my protein that much, I drink lots of milk, specifically skim milk (2-3L/day) and I'm trying to lose weight with lower fat intake. The last 2 nights, however, I didnt need to wake up to pee after having dry red wine and ice cream before bed. I will continue to see if it really is the fix for me.
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@bot-mod said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:
Vasopressin is also known as antidiuretic hormone. Which diminishes its function somewhat because it does lots of things and has profound behavioural effects. But perhaps they're all downstream of fluid accumulations, structures and movements in a way.
So are you so suggesting more fluid / food intake around the peak of vasopressin release? 8am and again at dinner, before 8pm?
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For over a week I haven’t needed to pee while in bed, each day I had ice cream at 9pm and wine from 8-9:30pm. Last night I had wine only at 8pm and no ice cream and had to get up at 4am to pee. It’s nice that these 2 good foods/drink help.
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Thicker when it drops, thinner when it rises. Which is what a persons senses would nudge them to do anyway. But they may have struggled with their sense of "smell" since "corona".
You can also move the times on the x axis left or right of your own accord. This may have something to do with "seasonal" illness and mortality issues in shift workers.
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I am wondering if you have high cortisol levels during the night. If that is the case, then the long term use of alcohol is not the best solution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cortisol#https://www.verywellmind.com/heavy-drinking-increases-stress-hormone-63201
In the study below, 200 mg of l-theanine had a profound effect on sleep quality. L-Theanine is found in green tea. Note the effect increased over 4 weeks.
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@DavidPS i mentioned this above, but L-theanine + glycine before bed gave me anxiety/adrenaline and I couldn’t sleep. I took just ice cream at 9pm last night and didn’t wake to pee!
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@Turk said in Why Does Wine Help with preventing Nighttime urination?:
Most nights I have to get up to pee, 1am, 2am, 4am most of the time, but have noticed when I drink wine, usually half or a full bottle, I dont need to wake up to pee. Does anyone know why this helps?
For anyone in the future searching for key terms like nocturia, waking to pee, night time urination, wake to pee, etc... When I am not calories restricting and just eating how I feel like, wine and or icecream about 1.5hrs before bed helps me to not pee during the night. And when I'm in a calorie deficit those dont seem to work, but what has worked was taking some cynoplus 1.5hrs before bed, a smaller dose than with my meals, it was about 20mg of cynoplus = 3.75mcg of T3, 15mcg T4.
