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The pro-metabolic effects of apple polyphenols

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    hypercashoidism @A Former User
    last edited by 22 Apr 2024, 10:42

    @questforhealth anyone else have an opinion on this? i always thought the same. even if procyanidin does work for hair loss i'm not that interested if it just works through being anti-DHT

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      Mauritio @hypercashoidism
      last edited by 23 Apr 2024, 12:17

      @hypercashoidism said in The pro-metabolic effects of apple polyphenols:

      @questforhealth anyone else have an opinion on this? i always thought the same. even if procyanidin does work for hair loss i'm not that interested if it just works through being anti-DHT

      Have you read this thread ? lol

      Dare to think.

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        hypercashoidism @Mauritio
        last edited by 24 Apr 2024, 13:31

        @Mauritio i'm still not sure since i remember reading that 'theory of everything' reddit post a while back which theorised that procyanidin works through increasing intracellular degradation of DHT through the increase of an enzyme i forgot the name of. In that case i'm not sure if that's something i want, i'm more interested in better eyebrows and facial hair which more DHT breakdown would antagonise

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          Mauritio @hypercashoidism
          last edited by 24 Apr 2024, 14:02

          @hypercashoidism said in The pro-metabolic effects of apple polyphenols:

          @Mauritio i'm still not sure since i remember reading that 'theory of everything' reddit post a while back which theorised that procyanidin works through increasing intracellular degradation of DHT through the increase of an enzyme i forgot the name of. In that case i'm not sure if that's something i want, i'm more interested in better eyebrows and facial hair which more DHT breakdown would antagonise

          Balding is a metabolic disease. And this thread offers 10 different mechanisms on how procyanidin helps with that, if that's not enough and you rather rely on some post you read some time ago that you vaguely remember, then I dont know what to tell you.

          Dare to think.

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            hypercashoidism @Mauritio
            last edited by 24 Apr 2024, 14:15

            @Mauritio i'd like to believe it would work but those 10 things may do less for the hair growth i want than higher DHT would. i like to look at everything from all angles, 100 benefits may be outweighed by 1 downside

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              Gaston
              last edited by 8 days ago

              @Mauritio are you still experimenting with apples / procyanidin-B2?

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                Mauritio @Gaston
                last edited by 6 days ago

                @Gaston Not really. I suspect that they might be responsible for my crazY hormone test results. But thats a wild Speculation. I take theh about 1/Week still.

                Dare to think.

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                  Gaston @Mauritio
                  last edited by 6 days ago

                  @Mauritio I've been applying this product to my scalp for almost 2 months and it seems to be having a positive effect on hair growth, at least in the temple area.

                  https://tokibotanicals.com/apple-skin-15-procyanidin-b2-organic-extract/

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                    Mauritio @Gaston
                    last edited by 6 days ago

                    @Gaston nice, how do You dissolve it?

                    Dare to think.

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                      Gaston @Mauritio
                      last edited by 6 days ago

                      @Mauritio

                      15ml glass dropper bottle

                      1/32 tsp of powder = 135mg
                      ~15ml distilled water (fully dissolved)
                      = 20mg PB2 = 0.13% solution

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                      1/16 tsp of powder = 270mg
                      ~15ml distilled water (not fully dissolved)
                      ~15ml vodka (fully dissolved)
                      40mg PB2 = 0.26%

                      The study I saw on procyanidin B2 for hair used a 1% strength procyanidin B2 solution. But this apple skin powder has additional polyphenols and procyanidins in it other than just B2, so it might be comparably "strong."

                      https://img.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/files/base/allured/all/image/2020/06/ct.CT_116_12_061_09.pdf

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                        Mauritio @Gaston
                        last edited by 5 days ago

                        @Gaston Thanks!

                        Dare to think.

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