getting super lean sickkunt
-
@eduardo-crispino I do still wonder if it wasn't a PUFA deficiency and it was more like the PUFA helped to numb symptoms they were getting from something else they were doing.
I think their only fat source was homogenized coconut oil and egg yolks from their chickens which were fed a very strict PUFA controlled diet.
-
@Zachs I agree CICO is bullshit. Why do you think I think CICO is true? CICO is ridiculous to anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex.
With that said, your reasoning is still at best radically incomplete and at worst utterly false. Explain to me how muscle protein synthesis is supposed to occur if your dietary protein intake is not adequate? Are your muscle cells supposed to abra-cadabra the amino acids it needs initiate MPS from scratch? Or maybe are the amino acids supposed to come from skin or connective tissue that your body catabolizes and then transports to the muscle? Since magic is impossible, you're left with the second option which is called catabolism not anabolism.
We know the basics of what triggers MPS. Certain dietary amino acids like leucine trigger it strongly, as does adequate protein from the diet.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28915727/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37325954/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34371981/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31121843/In addition, low fat diets (in the 0-30 gram range that is popular on the "sugar-diet") decreases multiple measures of androgen production in males, in particular males of northern European ancestry. So, the "sugar diet" will likely tank testosterone levels, so much for creating an "anabolic environment"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/
To answer your last question, I have not done it because there is reason to think it is a stupid idea. Do I need to test something myself to know whether it is true or not? No. That is a ridiculous epistemic principle. I don't need to try a vegan diet, or try drinking 14 gallons of water per day, or try jumping off of a building to know what will likely happen in those scenarios.
Lastly, the "sugar diet" consisting of cane sugar, candy, gummy bears, litres of coke, sour patch kids, etc. is completely devoid of micronutrients, so good luck overcoming that hurdle as well.
-
@eduardo-crispino I'm sorry but you're wrong and this diet and advice are certified retarded. You really think your micronutrient poor gummy bear bullshit is better than eggs,meat,fruit,potatoes,liver, clen and E+C stack, and cardio?
You're literally describing yo-yo dieting. You eat this diet for a week or two, eat fatty foods, and then when you gain weight you go back on the diet to "lean out" haha bro that's called a wrecked metabolism
Pure sucrose is depleting b-vitamins, minerals, and other micronutrients, as well as being hard on digestion. Why is pure sucrose the ideal? Why not fruit juice?
Yes, I agree that gram per pound of protein is excessive, but 0.71-0.8 g/pound is probably optimal for naturals, and for enhanced, probably a lot more.
Mike Fave actually has a great video on this recent fad. Check it out bro
-
What amount of protein intake are we even talking about? We have not even given any numbers and you want to say that im utterly false.
As a rule i dont argue with people who believe anything with 100% certainty without ever trying something or even knowing exactly what the other person is saying.
-
@jamezb46 mike faves video is strawmanning
cole eats and reccomends vegetables fruit and juice for the sugar fasts
youre just reacting to a reaction of his video of coles most recent video eating candy
cole is just showing candy works for weightloss tooit sounds like youre reacting to the hype train effect and not the actual content, i doubt youve listened to many of coles videos if you dont like the idea as they are probably hard for someone to listen to that doesnt like his yelling and swearing . i dont think you overstand the concept anyways, it is an optimized form of fasting .
mike fave is a type of science nerd cole talks about
there are many results pictures to be posted . until then …
ps cole made fun of saladino for charging $900 for a phone consult and then asking the client another $20 for long distance. mike fave charges $597 for an app and membership of his community lolololol
cole is threatening these people’s griftingi have many mroe reasons why sugar block fasting is superior to anythiing else for weight loss and managament. it allows people to be normal and binge eat frequently, which is healthy,
binge eating IS healthy.the muscle loss thing is a fear perpetuated by ppl
mike saw the video reply to sugar diet as a marketing avenue , which is fine and good, but it is transparent and gay. mike doesnt even look athletic. the muscle loss fear is funny because mike is twinky and cole is jacked
-
@jamezb46 0.71-0.8 grams per pound
-
@jamezb46 well cole has done it including all the stupid things like high fat zero carb and no calorie. he has lots of experience. im too lazy to rationalize it further. can you eat a half a costco tiramisu and stay lean or does your diet require you to eat the same calories and macros everyday. carnivores cant eat a bowl of strawberries, and similar would be to someone that cant eat fatty meats at some point in their diet. yo yo dieting is based. binging is based.
-
YO YO dieting IS based
Binging IS based -
@eduardo-crispino I agree that Mike could use a lot more muscle. I'm not Mike's #1 fan by any means. But the muscle loss is a demonstrated thing on fat loss diets when protein is not adequate. It is surely not adequate if doing "sugar fasting".
What evidence do you have that muscle loss is not occurring on very low protein diets?
What about the "sugar diet" people. Have you tried clen? t3+t2? ECA stack? You really think you're smarter than literal decades of guys getting shredded using that shit? I'm not saying that nothing can ever change, and the old ways are best. Fuck the old ways. But there are proven ways that absolutely do work. Some of them are listed above.
Binge eating is not healthy by any means. Why do you think it is healthy?
-
@jamezb46 binging is optimal , try it sometimes you will see .
it’s fun and creates satisfaction. i can eat low fat for ages because looking in mirror at lesn guy feels better than butter on potato . and to be honest eating lots of fat everyday doesnt even feel good, it feels less good than low fat.once in awhile i will like to eat a loaf of bread with half a stick of butter and several eggs and a pack of bacon. and then not care for fatty foods for awhile again. this is optimal and fun
have you ever eaten a half a costco tiramisu cake?
-
@eduardo-crispino
This was the result of me (front) eating adequate protein, adequate fat from animal meat, eggs, adequate carbs, and doing lots of cardio from stairmaster a couple years ago, and completely natural at the time.
No binging and fasting or other mental disorder type behavior going on to get that lean
-
@jamezb46 binging is super based and that leanness WILL be achieved with this method
using stairmaster for many hours might be mental disorder from other POV btw . same way u think binging is mental disorder
-
@eduardo-crispino Great, champ. Since you don't like to post studies I guess we'll just wait on your physique pics to prove this fad diet
-
@jamezb46 i dont think i approached the condescension of what you attempted with champ even when i said i dont think you overstand coles method
you took it to the next level -
@eduardo-crispino You're advocating for binging, yo-yo dieting, eating high-PUFA processed foods from Costco so I don't think you're a serious person
-
@eduardo-crispino Who said hours? 20 minutes high intensity 4-5x/week was all I used
-
@jamezb46 xD
-
This is me after 40 days of zero fat and 4000 calories of carbs, low protein 60-70g a day.
Since you now want to result to n1s to prove a point.
Also my cardiovascular and libido were the highest they had ever been. All while doing zero resistance training or cardio.
Creating a high metabolism, high anabolic environment and removing inflammation is not equal to your dieting studies.
-
This post is deleted! -
Also i agree with Ed that gym and cardio addiction is much more of a mental health disorder than enjoying big meals and doing diets that like 90% of the world are basically on.
Your definition of fasting and binging is not the same as was Ed is talking about.
