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      A Former User @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas

      LOL, great detective skills sherlock! Except thar i never claimed that picture was recent or that i was currently doing the sugar diet!

      I agree with Ed, you and James are acting deranged. Its almost if the sugar diet hurts your fragile egos and perceptions. If its as simple as the sugar diet, why am i doing all these drugs and other weird stuff.

      I simply gave advice, backed it up with my experience doing it and tried to move on.

      And the simple reason why i dont constantly do the sugar diet is because i dont care about being lean! I have a family and a life i enjoy myself and do whatever i like. But i did start the sugar diet 3 days ago so i will update in a few weeks the rapid fat loss.

      Honestly this is why i gave up the forum life in the first place. There are far to many ego maniacs that would rather belittle and bully than expand and learn.

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        eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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        @alfredoolivas re read the post where zach posts it

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          A Former User @alfredoolivas
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          @alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

          Whereas, Zac when he took those photos 8 years ago, did not do the sugar diet to achieve that result! The sugar diet didn't even exist back then. Where did Zach claim that these photos are 8 years old on this thread? He used them as current proof!

          Man this gets wilder and wilder. The sugar diet didnt exist 8 years ago (10 technically that was 2015) well i guess i invented it then. Go to the self experiment section of this forum, find my post and follow the links to the 2015 ray peat forums threads where i discuss it.

          LOL

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            alfredoolivas @A Former User
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            @Zachs @eduardo-crispino

            @Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

            This is me after 40 days of zero fat and 4000 calories of carbs, low protein 60-70g a day.

            Since you now want to result to n1s to prove a point.

            So he is posting about what he did 8 years ago? This guy starts a fricking youtube channel to talk about what good results he got 8 years ago from a diet?

            You have no credibility and the current way you look proves this. But of course, sugar diet is based so the people that follow the sugar diet will religously support your lack of results from this diet!

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              A Former User @A Former User
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              😂

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                alfredoolivas @A Former User
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                @Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

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                  eduardo-crispino @A Former User
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                  @Zachs theyre reacting to the hype train and not the actual content

                  i will explain it clearly:
                  people talking about the sugar diet are mostly strawmanning
                  mike fave’s video is boring and bad and strawmans multiple things
                  ive known about cole since like 2018 when he was drinking his own piss
                  he is a weight loss coach and very good at it and his target is many many people
                  not bioenergetic people that pay $597 for a membership in a group
                  cole has done more for animal wellness than vegans have by explaining meat isnt that important to the extent that people need to maximize protein intake all the time
                  cole admits sugar diet is a bad name and today changed it to sugar fasting
                  its not a diet
                  its not a license to live off candy
                  people dont lose muscle in amounts that matter
                  his methods dont use drugs or complex meal plans

                  hope people get it now

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                    A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas

                    😂 dude you seriously sound deranged.

                    And i started the youtube to document my current experience, for fun. Fun might be something your missing in your life. Take a break.

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                      eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                      @alfredoolivas
                      i believe you are reacting to the hype because it annoys you that this is popular and the things youre looking at is incorrect
                      cole robinson is the only main source for sugar fasting info i know of with the right explanations on what it is and how to do it

                      i think youre responding to something different . sugar diet was a mistake name. its sugar fasting

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                        A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                        @alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                        @Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

                        How about this, ill post a current pic tomorrow morning and you do the same, we will see whos leaner. Then if you like we will see who can get even leaner in the next two weeks.

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                          eduardo-crispino @A Former User
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                          @Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

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                            alfredoolivas @A Former User
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                            @Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

                            Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

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                              eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                              @alfredoolivas arent u on like 2g of test and 75mg of aromasin lol

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                                alfredoolivas @eduardo-crispino
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                                @eduardo-crispino I don't respond to gear lol and spamming the androgen receptor doesn't aid in fat loss. But I see your point and you are correct. But I don't go telling people to do the same!

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                                  A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                                  @alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                                  @Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

                                  Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

                                  I dont understand how 10 year old advice is not valid advice? Its the same advice that is resurfacing now. Can you please help me understand what makes you so enraged by this?

                                  And even though i never once tried to misslead, i would absolutely show a timestamp. It’s hilarious to think that both you and james want to paint me as a liar.

                                  Oh and what about your claim that the sugar diet didnt exist, do you want to retract that at all or just keep with the attacks?

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                                    alfredoolivas @A Former User
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                                    @Zachs Well why should we listen to you if you currently yield no results? You said its because you eat and live like an american. Well why do you eat and live like an american if the sugar diet is so good?

                                    Maybe you don't follow the diet as it is a very unsustainable diet that is hard to follow?

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                                      A Former User @eduardo-crispino
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                                      @eduardo-crispino said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                                      @Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

                                      Thanks but i wouldnt be doing this to try and best him, i dont care in the least what anyone does or looks like, only to show that i am not a liar and that the sugar diet is simple.

                                      I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

                                      It’s interesting how history repeats itself. I remember individuals on the RPF 10 years ago that were doing every drug they could think of. One or more of those guys actually died.

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                                        eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                                        @alfredoolivas its not an unsustainable diet
                                        please watch Cole's video from earlier today
                                        Youtube Video

                                        just the first few minutes explains it

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                                          alfredoolivas @A Former User
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                                          @Zachs

                                          @Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                                          I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

                                          Did I ever say taking drugs is better than a sugar diet? No.

                                          I am just saying, you posting about how good a diets results were 10 years ago and now you have gained all the weight back + more, doesn't help the sugar diet.

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                                            alfredoolivas @eduardo-crispino
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                                            @eduardo-crispino I understand, if you work from a desk or are a student, and have access to unlimited candies, sodas, syrups and jellies whenever you want? Sure, you can go 15+ hours eating only sucrose.

                                            But if you can't be eating sucrose when ever you want, like in a lot of jobs? It's unsustainable.

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