getting super lean sickkunt

OP can drop 10lbs in a couple weeks sugar fasting
reccomending sugar fasts for him is correct cuz he is saying its for getting in shape for summer which is here now
reccomending sugar fasts to him is not incorrect and is correct for the context
the idea he is going to waste away muscles in weeks on a high carb zero protein zero fat diet is just funny its not gonna happen

@alfredoolivas

LOL, great detective skills sherlock! Except thar i never claimed that picture was recent or that i was currently doing the sugar diet!

I agree with Ed, you and James are acting deranged. Its almost if the sugar diet hurts your fragile egos and perceptions. If its as simple as the sugar diet, why am i doing all these drugs and other weird stuff.

I simply gave advice, backed it up with my experience doing it and tried to move on.

And the simple reason why i dont constantly do the sugar diet is because i dont care about being lean! I have a family and a life i enjoy myself and do whatever i like. But i did start the sugar diet 3 days ago so i will update in a few weeks the rapid fat loss.

Honestly this is why i gave up the forum life in the first place. There are far to many ego maniacs that would rather belittle and bully than expand and learn.

@alfredoolivas re read the post where zach posts it

@alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

Whereas, Zac when he took those photos 8 years ago, did not do the sugar diet to achieve that result! The sugar diet didn't even exist back then. Where did Zach claim that these photos are 8 years old on this thread? He used them as current proof!

Man this gets wilder and wilder. The sugar diet didnt exist 8 years ago (10 technically that was 2015) well i guess i invented it then. Go to the self experiment section of this forum, find my post and follow the links to the 2015 ray peat forums threads where i discuss it.

LOL

alfredoolivas

@Zachs @eduardo-crispino

@Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

This is me after 40 days of zero fat and 4000 calories of carbs, low protein 60-70g a day.

Since you now want to result to n1s to prove a point.

So he is posting about what he did 8 years ago? This guy starts a fricking youtube channel to talk about what good results he got 8 years ago from a diet?

You have no credibility and the current way you look proves this. But of course, sugar diet is based so the people that follow the sugar diet will religously support your lack of results from this diet!

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alfredoolivas

@Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

@Zachs theyre reacting to the hype train and not the actual content

i will explain it clearly:
people talking about the sugar diet are mostly strawmanning
mike fave’s video is boring and bad and strawmans multiple things
ive known about cole since like 2018 when he was drinking his own piss
he is a weight loss coach and very good at it and his target is many many people
not bioenergetic people that pay $597 for a membership in a group
cole has done more for animal wellness than vegans have by explaining meat isnt that important to the extent that people need to maximize protein intake all the time
cole admits sugar diet is a bad name and today changed it to sugar fasting
its not a diet
its not a license to live off candy
people dont lose muscle in amounts that matter
his methods dont use drugs or complex meal plans

hope people get it now

@alfredoolivas

dude you seriously sound deranged.

And i started the youtube to document my current experience, for fun. Fun might be something your missing in your life. Take a break.

@alfredoolivas
i believe you are reacting to the hype because it annoys you that this is popular and the things youre looking at is incorrect
cole robinson is the only main source for sugar fasting info i know of with the right explanations on what it is and how to do it

i think youre responding to something different . sugar diet was a mistake name. its sugar fasting

@alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

How about this, ill post a current pic tomorrow morning and you do the same, we will see whos leaner. Then if you like we will see who can get even leaner in the next two weeks.

@Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

alfredoolivas

@Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

@alfredoolivas arent u on like 2g of test and 75mg of aromasin lol

alfredoolivas

@eduardo-crispino I don't respond to gear lol and spamming the androgen receptor doesn't aid in fat loss. But I see your point and you are correct. But I don't go telling people to do the same!

@alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

I dont understand how 10 year old advice is not valid advice? Its the same advice that is resurfacing now. Can you please help me understand what makes you so enraged by this?

And even though i never once tried to misslead, i would absolutely show a timestamp. It’s hilarious to think that both you and james want to paint me as a liar.

Oh and what about your claim that the sugar diet didnt exist, do you want to retract that at all or just keep with the attacks?

alfredoolivas

@Zachs Well why should we listen to you if you currently yield no results? You said its because you eat and live like an american. Well why do you eat and live like an american if the sugar diet is so good?

Maybe you don't follow the diet as it is a very unsustainable diet that is hard to follow?

@eduardo-crispino said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

Thanks but i wouldnt be doing this to try and best him, i dont care in the least what anyone does or looks like, only to show that i am not a liar and that the sugar diet is simple.

I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

It’s interesting how history repeats itself. I remember individuals on the RPF 10 years ago that were doing every drug they could think of. One or more of those guys actually died.

@alfredoolivas its not an unsustainable diet
please watch Cole's video from earlier today
Youtube Video

just the first few minutes explains it

alfredoolivas

@Zachs

@Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

Did I ever say taking drugs is better than a sugar diet? No.

I am just saying, you posting about how good a diets results were 10 years ago and now you have gained all the weight back + more, doesn't help the sugar diet.