getting super lean sickkunt

[A Former User]

@Zachs theyre reacting to the hype train and not the actual content

i will explain it clearly:
people talking about the sugar diet are mostly strawmanning
mike fave’s video is boring and bad and strawmans multiple things
ive known about cole since like 2018 when he was drinking his own piss
he is a weight loss coach and very good at it and his target is many many people
not bioenergetic people that pay $597 for a membership in a group
cole has done more for animal wellness than vegans have by explaining meat isnt that important to the extent that people need to maximize protein intake all the time
cole admits sugar diet is a bad name and today changed it to sugar fasting
its not a diet
its not a license to live off candy
people dont lose muscle in amounts that matter
his methods dont use drugs or complex meal plans

hope people get it now

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas

dude you seriously sound deranged.

And i started the youtube to document my current experience, for fun. Fun might be something your missing in your life. Take a break.

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas
i believe you are reacting to the hype because it annoys you that this is popular and the things youre looking at is incorrect
cole robinson is the only main source for sugar fasting info i know of with the right explanations on what it is and how to do it

i think youre responding to something different . sugar diet was a mistake name. its sugar fasting

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

How about this, ill post a current pic tomorrow morning and you do the same, we will see whos leaner. Then if you like we will see who can get even leaner in the next two weeks.

[A Former User]

@Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

[alfredoolivas]

@Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas arent u on like 2g of test and 75mg of aromasin lol

[alfredoolivas]

@eduardo-crispino I don't respond to gear lol and spamming the androgen receptor doesn't aid in fat loss. But I see your point and you are correct. But I don't go telling people to do the same!

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs Okay, absolutely. With one condition:

Because you are a weirdo, that likes to post 10 year old photos, the photos MUST have a piece of paper with the date written on it. Before and after.

I dont understand how 10 year old advice is not valid advice? Its the same advice that is resurfacing now. Can you please help me understand what makes you so enraged by this?

And even though i never once tried to misslead, i would absolutely show a timestamp. It’s hilarious to think that both you and james want to paint me as a liar.

Oh and what about your claim that the sugar diet didnt exist, do you want to retract that at all or just keep with the attacks?

[alfredoolivas]

@Zachs Well why should we listen to you if you currently yield no results? You said its because you eat and live like an american. Well why do you eat and live like an american if the sugar diet is so good?

Maybe you don't follow the diet as it is a very unsustainable diet that is hard to follow?

[A Former User]

@eduardo-crispino said in getting super lean sickkunt:

@Zachs alfred has been on ozempic and high doses of various drugs so i wouldnt be surprised if he beats you. some of the doses of gear he talks about are funny high. not saying that to be mean just saying youre totally natty vs a walking pharmacy superhero

Thanks but i wouldnt be doing this to try and best him, i dont care in the least what anyone does or looks like, only to show that i am not a liar and that the sugar diet is simple.

I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

It’s interesting how history repeats itself. I remember individuals on the RPF 10 years ago that were doing every drug they could think of. One or more of those guys actually died.

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas its not an unsustainable diet
please watch Cole's video from earlier today
Youtube Video

just the first few minutes explains it

[alfredoolivas]

@Zachs

@Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

I do believe you are right though that people who get so entangled in pharmaceuticals and other oddball stuff get fragile egos when simple ways prove superior.

Did I ever say taking drugs is better than a sugar diet? No.

I am just saying, you posting about how good a diets results were 10 years ago and now you have gained all the weight back + more, doesn't help the sugar diet.

[alfredoolivas]

@eduardo-crispino I understand, if you work from a desk or are a student, and have access to unlimited candies, sodas, syrups and jellies whenever you want? Sure, you can go 15+ hours eating only sucrose.

But if you can't be eating sucrose when ever you want, like in a lot of jobs? It's unsustainable.

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas

You are spinning now, losing grip. Those drugs have serious side effects you know.

Well see tomorrow whats what and then ill show you how easy the sugar diet is.

[alfredoolivas]

@Zachs okay please show me, just make sure to include a piece of paper that includes the date the picture was taken okay?

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas

Im still loling over your post where you discovered i was using an extremely old phone.

[alfredoolivas]

@Zachs Yeah and I find it even funnier that an old head like yourself, is reminiscing over his weight loss results 10 years ago over 10+ minute youtube videos instead of putting down the fork!

Maybe this "competition" will inspire you to do so. Assuming you don't instead post 10 year old transformation photos again, which is why we will both post proof of the current date the photo was taken - so neither of us do something like this.

[A Former User]

Youtube Video

[A Former User]

@alfredoolivas

Why not? I find it fascinating. I have been researching in the health and nutrition sphere going on 25 years not for any other reason except i love it. And now what i found most fascinating, something i actually hypothesized and put into action, is back! So while you try to belittle me and question my integrity, im here because i want to help and learn.

I thought this place might be better than the fascist echo chamber that the ray peat forum became but people like you remind exactly why that place failed.