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      Zachs @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas

      I wasnt comparing our physiques, simply showing what can be done with carbs alone. 40lbs of fat in 40 days, no cardio, no huge stacks of drugs, no restricting calories.

      Your and James fat loss suggestions are laughable compared to the simplicity of a zero fat diet. Why would anyone use potentially dangerous drugs and calorie restrict while doing stressful exercise when they can simply eat carb ad libitum and cycle fat and protein. Its really that easy yet some people rather scoff and insult instead of just trying something for themselves.

      Think. Perceive. Act.

      https://youtube.com/@sugarislife?si=04Cee-LLw6IFJ8NU

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        alfredoolivas @Zachs
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        @Zachs if it works so well why are you still looking like the average American ?

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          Zachs @alfredoolivas
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          @alfredoolivas because i eat and live like an average american. Did you see the picture i posted a bit back or are you just going off my current youtube videos. If you think i look average in the picture, thats wild.

          https://youtube.com/@sugarislife?si=04Cee-LLw6IFJ8NU

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            alfredoolivas @Zachs
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            @Zachs @jamezb46

            Zachs you a liar. These photos are not from a sugar diet you did recently, as these photos are incredibly old/

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            You can clearly see that the first photo is very old. Likely close to a decade old.
            Not only do you look a lot younger than you do currently, but your face has much less fat, the camera quality is terrible and you used a green filter on this photo - which is a old thing people used to do in the early days of social media.

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            @eduardo-crispino @Zachs @jamezb46

            Guys. This phone is an ancient iPhone, as it only has one camera.

            This pyscopath is currently, filming his youtube videos in 1080p. This is not possible with the type of ancient iphone he is holding in the photos.

            You clearly are using old photos to try to falsey prove that the sugar diet preserves muscles.

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              alfredoolivas @Zachs
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              @Zachs why do you eat and live like an average american if the sugar diet works so well?

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                eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                @alfredoolivas youre being totally disingenious
                he does not look like the average american in that pic of course so you are talking about him in the videos where he just looks normal from what we can see. the average american is fat

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                  eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                  @alfredoolivas that photo is from 2017 on rpf and i dont think he is claiming it isnt. he even posted links to the thread on another post

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                    alfredoolivas @eduardo-crispino
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                    @eduardo-crispino lol why is he using 8 year old photos to begin with? To prove that a sugar diet worked 8 years ago?

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                      eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                      @alfredoolivas why are you calling him a psychopath lol

                      you and the other dude are behaving oddly in this thread and kind of surprising to me that youre getting so worked up over someone with a different opinion

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                        eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                        @alfredoolivas idk why is the other guy using a 2 year old photo? why are you being like this rn

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                          eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                          @alfredoolivas in the thread with the photo he literally posts the diet that got him there and doesnt claim its the sugar fasting we are talking about now

                          he says he posted it because the other guy posted a pic

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                            alfredoolivas @eduardo-crispino
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                            @eduardo-crispino Well James shared that photo, as an example of his advice working.

                            James posted this 8 months ago on his reddit. So his advice is still working to this day.

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                            Whereas, Zac when he took those photos 8 years ago, did not do the sugar diet to achieve that result! The sugar diet didn't even exist back then. Where did Zach claim that these photos are 8 years old on this thread? He used them as current proof!

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                              eduardo-crispino
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                              OP can drop 10lbs in a couple weeks sugar fasting
                              reccomending sugar fasts for him is correct cuz he is saying its for getting in shape for summer which is here now
                              reccomending sugar fasts to him is not incorrect and is correct for the context
                              the idea he is going to waste away muscles in weeks on a high carb zero protein zero fat diet is just funny its not gonna happen

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                                Zachs @alfredoolivas
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                                @alfredoolivas

                                LOL, great detective skills sherlock! Except thar i never claimed that picture was recent or that i was currently doing the sugar diet!

                                I agree with Ed, you and James are acting deranged. Its almost if the sugar diet hurts your fragile egos and perceptions. If its as simple as the sugar diet, why am i doing all these drugs and other weird stuff.

                                I simply gave advice, backed it up with my experience doing it and tried to move on.

                                And the simple reason why i dont constantly do the sugar diet is because i dont care about being lean! I have a family and a life i enjoy myself and do whatever i like. But i did start the sugar diet 3 days ago so i will update in a few weeks the rapid fat loss.

                                Honestly this is why i gave up the forum life in the first place. There are far to many ego maniacs that would rather belittle and bully than expand and learn.

                                https://youtube.com/@sugarislife?si=04Cee-LLw6IFJ8NU

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                                  eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
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                                  @alfredoolivas re read the post where zach posts it

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                                    Zachs @alfredoolivas
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                                    @alfredoolivas said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                                    Whereas, Zac when he took those photos 8 years ago, did not do the sugar diet to achieve that result! The sugar diet didn't even exist back then. Where did Zach claim that these photos are 8 years old on this thread? He used them as current proof!

                                    Man this gets wilder and wilder. The sugar diet didnt exist 8 years ago (10 technically that was 2015) well i guess i invented it then. Go to the self experiment section of this forum, find my post and follow the links to the 2015 ray peat forums threads where i discuss it.

                                    LOL

                                    https://youtube.com/@sugarislife?si=04Cee-LLw6IFJ8NU

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                                      alfredoolivas @Zachs
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                                      @Zachs @eduardo-crispino

                                      @Zachs said in getting super lean sickkunt:

                                      This is me after 40 days of zero fat and 4000 calories of carbs, low protein 60-70g a day.

                                      Since you now want to result to n1s to prove a point.

                                      So he is posting about what he did 8 years ago? This guy starts a fricking youtube channel to talk about what good results he got 8 years ago from a diet?

                                      You have no credibility and the current way you look proves this. But of course, sugar diet is based so the people that follow the sugar diet will religously support your lack of results from this diet!

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                                        Zachs @Zachs
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                                        😂

                                        https://youtube.com/@sugarislife?si=04Cee-LLw6IFJ8NU

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                                          alfredoolivas @Zachs
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                                          @Zachs lol 10 years ago!!! Have you thought about actually putting down the fork to look the way you looked back then? Or will you just keep on talking about a sugar diet that you never do!

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                                            eduardo-crispino @Zachs
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                                            @Zachs theyre reacting to the hype train and not the actual content

                                            i will explain it clearly:
                                            people talking about the sugar diet are mostly strawmanning
                                            mike fave’s video is boring and bad and strawmans multiple things
                                            ive known about cole since like 2018 when he was drinking his own piss
                                            he is a weight loss coach and very good at it and his target is many many people
                                            not bioenergetic people that pay $597 for a membership in a group
                                            cole has done more for animal wellness than vegans have by explaining meat isnt that important to the extent that people need to maximize protein intake all the time
                                            cole admits sugar diet is a bad name and today changed it to sugar fasting
                                            its not a diet
                                            its not a license to live off candy
                                            people dont lose muscle in amounts that matter
                                            his methods dont use drugs or complex meal plans

                                            hope people get it now

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