New "Mission" of RPF
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I can't see it any other way.
I continue to find motivations to change the narrative, including a recent dis of concerns about Bill Gates-linked chemtrails from solar engineering projects. These guys are pretending to be anti-Gates and anti big pharma, all the while promoting narratives that benefit them. The particularly annoying thing is that they try to mimic Peat's style of uncovering the truth, but they are using it without evidence it to promote a counter-argument to facts that are inconvenient to the powers that be, and even mixing in some truths from Peat's work. I find it to be intentionally misleading.
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Because the goal is character-assassination under the guise of promoting his work. The mischaracterizarions of his work seem intentional. The banning of longtime members (not to mention the exclusion of Russian, and possibly other, IP's) serves the purpose of giving the illusion of consensus, where only 'miraculous recovery' from the 'toxic Ray Peat diet' stories are heard. My only question is whether this was the intended goal of the RPF from the beginning or whether something changed along the way.
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@C-Mex
You have some stamina mate, I can't be 'in the RPF' more than a few minutes to get some review info. Those bright orange boxes highlighting TOXIC are just too much and too many. Thanks for bring this to light, seems this kind of 'conversion' of existing groups/forums online, and in real life, - out here in the world - is happening more frequently now. How many employees does the DS employ?! Sheesh... . -
@C-Mex
They are/have been definitely assassinating Ray's character, as well as blaming Ray for their own misinterpretation of Ray's bio-energetic orientation, and then their supposed sickness or depleted health, and then they have an eventual recovery through the miracle of 'Exorcism', ie- of Vitamin A.
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Actually I don't read there anymore, but I'm sure it is more of what I read a couple of weeks ago. I've taken to occasionally visit the tweets of Garrett and Thor to see what little 'truisms' they are posting, and I can almost always spot a hidden agenda. I'm even thinking some or most of these posts are automated -- AI.
Just to add:
I just wondered how much of that "misinterpretation" or Dr. Peat's work was facilitated by some members of the RPF over the years? I remember sending a link to my brother from the RPF about a problem he was having and at that time I looked at the Forum and saw all kinds of crazy-looking topics and wondered what my brother --unfamiliar with Peat -- was going to make of it if he ventured outside of the topic I sent him.
I also don't think that these 'people' are confined to the RPF and X. Sorry, not trying to cause paranoia but I think this is a realistic view.
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@Amazoniac He’s taken the entire site off the wayback machine. Stolen all our content, banned us from accessing it, and now we can’t even look up prior versions. Unbelievable!
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There’s no record that Garrett Smith was EVER into Ray Peat. When he says he tried the “Ray Peat diet” (not that there is one) and failed, he’s 100% lying.
This was his first website back in 2006: https://web.archive.org/web/20060813070450/http://doctorasteacher.com/
He also has an abandoned Twitter under the same name: https://twitter.com/DoctorAsTeacher
By 2012 it looked like this - pushing various crap and no mention of Ray: https://web.archive.org/web/20120517014143/http://www.doctorasteacher.com/
In 2013 it started redirecting here - this site was around from 2012-2017: https://web.archive.org/web/20121104160416/http://www.drgarrettsmith.com/
In 2018 it started redirecting to yet another URL: https://web.archive.org/web/20180404211251/http://nutritionrestored.com/
During this era he also had a podcast with this person and you can find a lot of his old posts here: https://www.facebook.com/thepathtostrengthandhealth/
Finally in Oct. 2019 we get the first mention of the low vitamin A grift: https://web.archive.org/web/20200627074214/https://nutritionrestored.com/
Then in 2021 that URL starts redirecting to his current Nutrition Detective site, where he’s suddenly proclaiming himself to be “the world’s leading vitamin A expert”: https://web.archive.org/web/20210808230723/https://nutritiondetective.com/
This is all on archive.org for now unless he copies Charlie and gets it removed...
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This article has been around for a while, but it is worth a read for anybody who hasn't read it. It's more about social media censorship, but still, you get the picture. Hybrid warfare.
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@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
"I've positively influenced the health of hundreds of millions of people all over the world. More effectively in fact than any other human in history."
I hate this little mouth-breathing worm so much.
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At least he speaks highly of and is impressed with Ray Peat. He also rebuffed Charlie's advances for the 'toxic a/bile' nonsense, I'll give him that. I thought that was what this thread was about, the 'new Mission' of RPF.
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lol. Now 'big corn' and 'big dairy' are the culprits, according to Thor...
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@VehmicJuryman said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@AkJono said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Wow, deal offer for the RPF name, but no dice says the lion.
I know Charlie reads this thread, so I want to ask him, what exactly does he think gives him the right to profit off of Peat's name while constantly insulting him and banning anyone who agrees with or defends his theories? What a pathetic man.
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@CO3 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
"I've positively influenced the health of hundreds of millions of people all over the world. More effectively in fact than any other human in history."
I hate this little mouth-breathing worm so much.
Don’t bother CO3, it’s not worth your heart. You may wish to proceed to pity and study that. But remember, that is a human being. And so are you. And so am I.
I’m not sure the aforementioned ever realised what they were doing but it seems obvious to me in hindsight. Presented with a series of multinational corporate dumpster fires in form of their profession, they incorporated, went multinational, and the proverbial demon they raised became prone to arson. While some of us take old adage to heart, such as a warning not to try and fight fire with fire, some of us can be a little forgetful. Not to mention a little… hot headed.
In a way I appreciate the example. Maybe I can muster a thank you. Either way, I’ll see them at home I guess. When they catch up.
Have a great day CO3.
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
In 2018 it started redirecting to yet another URL: https://web.archive.org/web/20180404211251/http://nutritionrestored.com/
I'm not at all familiar with how the Wayback Machine works, but none of the content is showing up under the various headings. Has it been scrubbed?
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@C-Mex
If you fast-forward to August, the Food and Nutrients categories are gone altogether, also shown in your screenshot. Rewind to the beginning and the categories are there with a drop-down menu but the individual items are blank. I guess it could have been a template that was never completed, or a change of course later. Or the information therein may have been removed. The menu shows Vitamin A listed before the B vitamins, then Vitamin C, then D and on down the list. The year 2018 was when the Grant Genereux 'anti-Peat' thread first appeared on the RPF.
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Question: Does exclusion of the RPF from the Wayback Machine mean that there is now no way to determine when or if online content within it has been deleted or modified?
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@C-Mex I'm not sure, but in regards to the raypeatforum, the entire website has already been backed up for us. So Charlie can do the splits on a 12 inch carrot and pout
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@C-Mex no. Brad and Georgi have both taken backups of the site.
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@C-Mex You can search that direct URL https://web.archive.org/web/20180701000000*/http://nutritionrestored.com/nutrients/vitamins/vitamin-a and there are only 3 captures - all empty pages. I don’t think that indicates it was scrubbed - if it was I think you’d see a blank page with a “Sorry” message like the screenshot I posted for RPF.
His blog does have some posts on it though: https://web.archive.org/web/20180501000000*/https://nutritionrestored.com/blog/
There’s nothing about vitamin A until 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20200923164217/https://nutritionrestored.com/blog/
Regarding RPF being removed - yes we have backups but now we can’t go back and check if certain pages/posts that were there before 2024 were changed.
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Regarding RPF being removed - yes we have backups but now we can’t go back and check if certain pages/posts that were there before 2024 were changed.
That's what I was thinking. We have the backups but that site exists as a 'permanent record' that cannot be analyzed historically.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." -George Orwell, 1984
