New "Mission" of RPF
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We need to use food not supplements. Food can be very powerful you know. You can always grow your own herbs....
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Now back to this story:
Hey All Ya'll and saturnuscv
@saturnuscv said in New "Mission" of RPF:Kind of hard to explain what I mean by this but Ray’s philosophy and research is really “infinite” in terms of potential compared to something like carnivore which is just a reductive lifestyle and is already “solved.” The powers that be don’t like infinite potential in the hands of everyday people.
For me, from the beginning of my interest into Ray Peat's ideas, was a dive into his website articles for the first few years. He was seemingly Wholistic, as far as can be morphed by my puny brain, in his approach to the bio systems. And I am coming from a TCM point of view! Anyhow, when I heard Ray discuss cell structure and energy, and then other aspects of how it all works, I was chuffed. (means 'cool and excited' sorta downunder).
Ray's connecting of the proverbial dots relating to the "Learned Helplessness" Epidemic and excess serotonin, low thyroid, etc.. . And this is an accident of modern life: nutrition/agribusiness/pharma?
Not only what we eat, but the whole matrix of input around us: Cultural/Societal, TV and now 'Puter, emf in the airwaves... . People's attention spans are becoming shorter and shorter. Not just that but when do modern people perceive? As in just be.... not necessarily meditating, but looking at the sky, or listening to rain?
Ray appreciated life and art, was a great thinker who could think his own thoughts (and not regurgitate others' thoughts), and was a maverick who championed others to be more healthy and free. Of course one not need to be paranoid to see that the State does not want anyone to get away from them. Freedom, health, and unlimited creative energy is 'too much' for the status quo regime makers. Just that is considered dangerous, imo, so then the bots and bad actors get the memo to attack and destroy. Just what I see.
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@questforhealth that's naturalistic philosophy, not metabolic/bioenergetic
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ok but just in case things go to shit. I take some supplements too. but we can use food too no?
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@questforhealth you can do whatever you want
food has limits though. I wasted plenty of my life trying to fix everything with diet. -
but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil
no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain
if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution
most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...
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@questforhealth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
but does food have limits? I think the problem is how its grown. poor nutrient devoid soil
no micronutrients = plants cant make vitamins to move up the food chain
if the farmer just adds nitrogen fertiliser its not really a solution
most people on earth other than the ones living in farming areas and with real knowledge might actually not have tried real nutritious food...
Maybe if you use all parts of the animal as a source of thyroid. Antihistamines and antibiotics are hard for some to do without and are pretty safe.
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you can eat a carrot straight form the garden and it can have bacteria on it which can help balance the gut microbiome. real living soil has thousands of microbes
some people on this forum find that that clean gut hypothesis doesn't work best for them, I also read a lot recently about how people in rural areas have the gut bacteria to digest cellulose. city dwellers don't. kind of surprised me really
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protect the women!
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saving america for jesus
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@ilovethesea yeah there is definitely an op to discredit Ray's ideas from within.
There's two approaches:
-reactionary idiots diluting the ideas while pretending to be experts on the matter
-other reactionary idiots actively going against the ideas
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@ilovethesea "spent the day with Jayz" ok loser
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If they are trying this hard... Are Rays ideas really that powerful?
Just let that sink in...
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Amazoniac He’s taken the entire site off the wayback machine. Stolen all our content, banned us from accessing it, and now we can’t even look up prior versions. Unbelievable!
Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.
It's thanks to the limited access that I had to resort to the Internet Archive and could compare the initial to a recent version of the front page, which was a wall of warnings, pushy subscriptions, misinformation campaigns, and senseless slandering.
"CO2 , The Gas of Life" | William Happer
"If I see a madman driving a car into a group of innocent bystanders, then I can’t simply wait for the catastrophe and then comfort the wounded and bury the dead. I must try to wrestle the steering wheel out of the hands of the driver."
Contrary to Ray, the lion isn't a 'killer', but the apathy of some participants in being spectators of power abuses by him is perplexing.
The forum has become the antithesis of the person that it represents.
I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with
ethanolretinol to act?At this stage, I'm more wary of people who haven't positioned than those who are enraged.
As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.
The recent access restrictions were based on the forum being under attack, but what about everything that was already archived? These were a threat to defend against too?
Even CloudFlare takes a more balanced approach than radical blocking:
"We didn’t want to make blocklisting easier because, again, we believe there’s value in the anonymous web surfing that Tor offers."
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@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?
Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?
Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise
Jocks with some science to sell.
Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@Mulloch94 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Let's just say I've been on both sides of the Israel issue
What do you mean by this? Are you just talking about the most recent events? Because Israel and Palestine have been going at it for a long time. I think this is really more of a divider on the American right than anywhere else. Most people on the left (outside of corporate democrats) stand pretty much in solidarity with Palestine. I'll refrain from giving my personal views on it as well, but lets just say, insufferable pricks like Ben Shapiro routinely like to weaponize their Jewish status as a means for identifying and calling out antisemitism .When in reality, more times than not, the people charged with antisemitism were usually just being critical of vulgar Israeli nationalism and human rights violations.
For the Holy Week, if I were Jesus, I would recommend to you this recent history of the Church, following the victory of the Jews over the church Jesus Christ established in WWIi:
https://www.unz.com/article/the-smoke-of-the-synagogue/
This article shows the height and depth of what the Jewish controllers and masters would do to infiltrate the head of the snake, the papacy. It would not be surprising for a revised history of WWII be written by Jew financier- financed rewriting of recent history, further making the Catholic Church a church that acted as a willful collaborator in the fictional Holocaust. As more Catholics leave this church for the "anti-religion (in words and not by reality of deed, as seen in how much of a religion it is to revere Jewry as the chosen people leading them to unknowingly, at least initially, be led by the pied piper of Christian Zionism)" and direct to Jesus evangelical churches, the more Israel and Zionist loving Christianity becomes to such extent that if possible at all, and if the rabbis permit (which would not be the first time) Christian conversion to Jewry.
Already, my fervently Catholic sister practices the seder, a Jewish meal to commemorate the Passover, and I don't even know if evangelicals do this as well.
But as Singaporeans would say "same same la." Both Catholics and Evangelicals have now more in common than before, in their converging view on Jews as being the chosen, and with that, a unity or a singularity is forming, as shaped by the ever growing strength and power and riches of tptb Talmudist and Zionist Jew financiers.
How one of the most anti-establishment personage in Jesus would become the most useful after death, spanning two millennia and more, in solidifying the establishment's hold on mankind- is something to both be marveled at and to despise to the fiber of our being. If we are astute enough to recognize this.
How this eventual reshaping and misshaping of noble intent was done is the blueprint for how modern day anti-establishment reformists and idealists and their ideas are being used to recapture our minds to blend in to the establishment's control of it. The more dependent we are on marching to their tune, the more safely ensconced they are in their absolute control of power. And the more power they have, the more abuse they can impose on us with impunity.
I think the undergoing project of tearing Ray Peat apart is a sub-cultural encapsulation of the general culture I described. To sum it best, it is nothing as simple as a rinse, wash, and repeat cycle played on the health and medical stage.
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@Amazoniac
I had only doublechecked a valuable page or two that i knew had been archived, the pages were there. I then commented here about archiving in general, then a day or so later my saved archive links came up empty. This is using the waybackmachine of course, i can't speak for other archive methods. -
A practice since time immemorial.
Modernized, but less incendiary both physically and less viscerally felt.
To allow history to keep repeating itself with the same tried and true methods of imprisoning us without our knowledge nor consent.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?
Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?
Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise
Jocks with some science to sell.
Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.
looks like a dead-eyed psychopath
"How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"
the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric
I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno
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@yerrag
As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.
The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.
