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    • BioEclecticB
      BioEclectic @Amazoniac
      last edited by BioEclectic

      @Amazoniac
      I had only doublechecked a valuable page or two that i knew had been archived, the pages were there. I then commented here about archiving in general, then a day or so later my saved archive links came up empty. This is using the waybackmachine of course, i can't speak for other archive methods.

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      • yerragY
        yerrag @BioEclectic
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        @BioEclectic

        A practice since time immemorial.

        Modernized, but less incendiary both physically and less viscerally felt.

        To allow history to keep repeating itself with the same tried and true methods of imprisoning us without our knowledge nor consent.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        • Hando-JinH
          Hando-Jin @yerrag
          last edited by Hando-Jin

          @yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

          @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

          I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

          Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.55.56 PM copy.png

          Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

          Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.53.26 PM copy.png

          Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

          Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.46.45 PM copy.png

          Jocks with some science to sell.

          Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

          looks like a dead-eyed psychopath

          "How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"

          the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric

          I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno

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          • BioEclecticB
            BioEclectic @yerrag
            last edited by BioEclectic

            @yerrag
            As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.

            Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.

            The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.

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            • DonkeyDudeD
              DonkeyDude @Hando-Jin
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              @Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              protect the women!

              What did he do, exactly?

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                Regina @A Former User
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                @C-Mex 💯 The Powers That Be = The Apex Predator.

                The devil's toolkit strategies.

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                • R
                  Regina @A Former User
                  last edited by

                  @questforhealth You bet. Ray is an actual threat.

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                  • Hando-JinH
                    Hando-Jin @DonkeyDude
                    last edited by

                    @DonkeyDude said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                    What did he do, exactly?

                    Reply

                    Disagreed with that Blossom character. Fortunately there was a Law and Order simp available to rush in and white knite the situation.

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                      Regina @Hando-Jin
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                      @Hando-Jin So creepy. Ingratiating himself to Blossom.
                      And she's falling for this crap.
                      What a shame.

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                      • KorvenK
                        Korven
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                        Lmao the activity level on RPF has dropped off a cliff.

                        The only "posters" left are Charlie and his army of burner accounts.

                        I mean look at this post by Sebastian B - it is so stupidly obvious this is just a means to fill up the empty space with useless "low toxin diet" posts:

                        burner account.png

                        So... you're telling me that you are unable to eat apples because of the "the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." and have to eat apple powder?

                        Riveting content!

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                        • KorvenK
                          Korven @Hando-Jin
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                          @Hando-Jin To be fair that is probably the only time I have ever agreed with Charlie banning someone - that guy seemed like such an asshole.

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                            ilovethesea
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                            Well well well... who knew that Charlie had a Patreon? https://www.patreon.com/raypeatforum_charlie

                            Screenshot 2024-03-30 at 1.40.34 AM copy.png

                            And here’s proof of his hypocrisy:

                            Screenshot 2024-03-30 at 1.40.44 AM copy.png

                            Edit - looks like he started this in 2020 before coming up with the subscription idea https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/charlies-patreon-drive-please-donate.32272/

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                              ilovethesea @Amazoniac
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                              @Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                              Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                              I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

                              I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                              Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

                              As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                              Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

                              So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

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                              • Hando-JinH
                                Hando-Jin @Korven
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                                @Korven They're all assholes in that forum

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                                • Hando-JinH
                                  Hando-Jin @ilovethesea
                                  last edited by

                                  @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                  @Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                  Did you, BioEclectic and other members have the chance to open the initial version of the forum, at the time when Ray agreed with its creation? The appearance was almost a variation of his website, with a picture of him and some of his favorite foods.

                                  I vaguely remember that yes. Just checked archive.today and it’s not great - https://archive.is/raypeatforum.com Random selection of pages and the oldest I found was 2016.

                                  I wonder what are the thresholds for protesting for those who remain indifferent. They need a footage of the lion incinerating members with ethanol retinol to act?

                                  Maybe some of the indifferent ones are struggling with serious health problems and don’t want to provoke the lion in case they get banned and lose the ability to ask questions there.

                                  As for the few supportive militants, they're intriguing. They identify themselves as the open-minded camp while watching unfazed the tyranny in front of them. If these people were liberals as claimed, they would repudiate the administration and wouldn't be willing to be part of it.

                                  Other than Mosaic and Christ lady, does anyone recognize the current pro-vitamin A posters at RPF? Could they be infiltrators or “sleeper” accounts that were already in position for this purpose?

                                  So the same entity as Thor Torrens and company - put in place to slowly ramp up the slander of Ray and create the illusion of a consensus for low vitamin A BS. Perfect example is this Sebastian B guy referring to “the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." They’re definitely escalating their lies.

                                  Good luck to them trying to bury Ray's work under a mountain of slick talking points and emotionally charged catch phrases. They look like same old same old alt-health world bros and dipshits. Their fad won't last 6 months.

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                                  • yerragY
                                    yerrag @Hando-Jin
                                    last edited by

                                    @Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    @yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    I think this Thor Torrens person is an agent assigned to popularize the “low vitamin A/anti-Peat” project. Has anyone found the viral video this guy is referring to?

                                    Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.55.56 PM copy.png

                                    Also look at his Twitter bio... special assistant to POTUS? Emmy winner?

                                    Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.53.26 PM copy.png

                                    Same asshole energy as Garrett Smith what a surprise

                                    Screenshot 2024-03-27 at 12.46.45 PM copy.png

                                    Jocks with some science to sell.

                                    Buying- the desperate already hooked on Fentanyl with some to spare. Muscles and guns give the sellers street cred.

                                    looks like a dead-eyed psychopath

                                    "How about we stand on south beach with our shirts off and ask all the women who walk by who has better eyes me or you"

                                    the alpha king who thinks female validation is the ultimate metric

                                    I suspect he doesn't show his chest in photos or videos because he has gyno

                                    He finds himself over the years attracting people with fundamentalist inclinations. He may actually have gyno, and can't bear his chest, but clothes himself with guns as wearables. Nice catch.

                                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                    • DonkeyDudeD
                                      DonkeyDude @Korven
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                                      @Korven said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      So... you're telling me that you are unable to eat apples because of the "the high-toxin Ray Peat cancer diet." and have to eat apple powder?

                                      Stomach ulcers did not exist before Ray Peat started promoting his toxic diet. Move on or I will move you on.

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                                      • yerragY
                                        yerrag @BioEclectic
                                        last edited by

                                        @BioEclectic said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        @yerrag
                                        As a lifelong student of history, rewriting and erasing is visceral.

                                        Large smear campaigns are bad enough but the time to really worry are when names and bodies of work begin to disappear (has anyone tried to research Gilbert Ling a second time lately, without resorting to books?). I can name and discuss estoric historical examples all day long.

                                        The web and digital are both great and terrible places to store information btw.

                                        They're actually doing more than just erasing the likes of Gilbert Ling, pushing what advances our station as humans by depriving us of revolutionary knowledge, but also depriving of access literally to tools to apply such knowledge to improve our health.

                                        I know. Just my experience with using hundred dollar devices made by Chinese companies from Shenzhen speaks volumes.

                                        One of them is a ring that takes very accurate measurements of oxygen saturation and displays them in a chart. To visualize what the fluctuations in spO2 that even in the ICU (where I had the serendipity to be confined in due a stroke of luck- a perfect storm that landed me there) I cannot see with all their expensive monitoring devices there.

                                        I am constantly adding these tools. So I'm aware when future versions of software such as apps become dumbed down and become toys for the average consumer.

                                        I have spent the past two days trying to make an app work for the O²Ring, which I had been using for the past 3 years, and learning a lot from using it as it relates to my health. The insight I got from it has been invaluable. I know because during my confinement I spoke about my findings with my attending doctors and they could not relate to what I was showing them.

                                        The new app for the O²Ring has been dumbed down, and I had been using older versions of the app for a while already. But then all of a sudden, the old apps started crashing. I kept on installing and using older and older versions of the app, until the oldest version In could find. All crashed. In my old phone as well as in my newer android phone. Such that it rendered my O²Ring practically useless except for the newer apps giving very little information amidst all the eye candy in user interface design. It essentially making an app meant for users of the Oura. Simplified and meant for the user to accept the expertise and AI involved in interpreting the data for him.

                                        Unless I can write my own app and have access to the APIs, which are protected by IP (intellectual property) laws, my exploration deeper into applying what we know of bioenergetics from the likes of Ling and Peat on my own with low cost but powerful devices from the Chinese will become more and more difficult.

                                        The only way all the old apps would keep crashing, I believe, has to do with the Android software that has lately been seeded with code that makes even old apps crash. I think in this area the powers that be are beginning to insidiously make the masses paupers in using low cost and empowering tools to better their health. Such devices are lately becoming more commonplace, and the sensors used are getting cheaper as they become more accurate. They are now nipping this nascent wave in the bud.

                                        Another sign to add to what is happening to RPF as they start corralling us like cattle into the feed lot.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                        • KorvenK
                                          Korven @DonkeyDude
                                          last edited by Korven

                                          @DonkeyDude My apologies Sir.

                                          You're right, it was the toxic Ray Peat diet that caused stomach ulcers all along... The toxic bile gets so full with toxic "vitamin" A that it literally oozes out of the stomach and burns holes in it. And when you stop intaking the toxins they will instead ooze out of every pore in your skin; it's a glorious sight to behold. This new paradigm gets rid of all the nuances, it is a simple way to health, you only have to eat beef, beans and bread and buy the "Big Five" minerals from Life Giving store. After every new detox wave you feel like a new person. I am 4 years deep and detoxing copper right now from the crazy space weather! Happy easter (without the toxic eggs!)

                                          #garrettsmithrightagain #toxicbiletheory

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                                            Peatful
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                                            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/thor-torrens-interviews-drstevegoeddeke-the-vitamin-a-disrespectors.52850/

                                            The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                            SD

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