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    risingfire @yerrag
    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 3:18 PM

    @yerrag this is an incredible articulation! So much of what Ray has said has been lost in translation(i.e. RPF). There's so many "secondary" and "tertiary" Ray acolytes or so they think. This reminds me of my sister in law who came across some of Ray's ideas through other so called health gurus. I began to ask her more of what they were feeding her and it became obvious that they really haven't read Ray and seem to only been soundbyte pirates.

    After 8 years of reading Ray and emailing him during a portion of those years, I hardly feel like I have strong grasp. His knowledge was a certain level of mastery. I still enjoy reading his articles and listening to his emails as I gleam new information and think differently almost every time I come across it.

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      risingfire @ilovethesea
      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 3:19 PM

      @ilovethesea I'd really like to see Charlie's blood work along with Garret Smith

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        risingfire @A Former User
        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 3:31 PM

        @jwayne there's literally nothing on that forum that remotely represents Peat. I created a new user name and paid for the subscriptions. I haven't been allowed access to post.

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          S.Holmes @risingfire
          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 3:43 PM

          @risingfire Whaaaaaat? You can't post?

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            risingfire @S.Holmes
            last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 3:57 PM

            @S-Holmes no and I'm paying. I think he may know it's me. Also, I saw your post saying Garrett looks hypo. That made me giggle. You're going to be banned soon for that!

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              A Former User @risingfire
              last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:01 PM

              @risingfire No 'New' members can, ain't that a cheek tho!

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                S.Holmes @risingfire
                last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:02 PM

                @risingfire That's just wrong! What does he charge?

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                  S.Holmes @A Former User
                  last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:03 PM

                  @Not_James_Bond 🤯

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                    A Former User @S.Holmes
                    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:06 PM

                    @S-Holmes $7.00 Month or $77.00 Yearly

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                      S.Holmes @A Former User
                      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:13 PM

                      @Not_James_Bond
                      Dr. P would be apalled. He believed health information should be free to everyone. In fact, as I recall, the fees for his books (I have them all) and newsletter just covered his costs. Just one more breach of his legacy.

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                        Verdad
                        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

                        I have to admit i am very concerned with the new direction that the RPF has taken. It seems to me to be almost cult like now with the anti-vitamin A movement.

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                          S.Holmes @Verdad
                          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

                          @Verdad The new and "improved" RP Forum:1000006384.jpg

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                            Verdad @ilovethesea
                            last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:19 PM

                            @ilovethesea This is just a logically absurd statement on so many levels. Ray peat actually lived 9 years longer than the average male lifespan in the US and even if he did not there are many variables that influence lifespan. You can have the "perfect diet" and still not live past 70 or you could have a relatively poor diet and live a lot longer.

                            I pointed out to them that many people who eat "toxic dairy" as they now call it live well over 100 and that those in the so called "blue zones" regularly eat dairy but no this has become true cult like mentality. All evidence to be ignored, and just plow on with the anti vitamin A and now basically anti ray peat movement.

                            They don't sound any different to me than the vegans or the carnivore diet or any diet that refuses to take on evidence. Really depressing because it has been such a good source of knowledge for me over the years.

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                              Verdad @S.Holmes
                              last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:21 PM

                              @S-Holmes haha it really does seem like it has reached that status. Charlie claiming that the anti-vitamin A movement is part of the great awakening. Next he is going to say that if you eat low vitamin A you will be part of the rapture. It really is sounding absurd.

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                                sphenoid
                                last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 4:23 PM

                                Not sure where to post these but I did some AI slop prompts of charlie manson and a lion.

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                                  Verdad
                                  last edited by Verdad Feb 19, 2024, 4:56 PM Feb 19, 2024, 4:55 PM

                                  @Charlie just posted a new thread and he really seems to have gone off the deep end to me. It really is a shame.

                                  title; "THE TOXIC RAY PEAT DIET & LIFESTYLE IS KEEPING MANY IN CAPTIVITY...RAY PEAT NEVER OFFERED A WAY OUT"

                                  Screenshot 2024-02-19 at 16.53.28.png

                                  All this terminology just sounds very cult like to me. It is the same kind of terminology they all use....we will free you of XYZ if you follow us you will be awakened and better than ever.

                                  Here is a link if anyone wants to read the post. It really seems like he has abandoned all reason and logic https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-toxic-ray-peat-diet-lifestyle-is-keeping-many-in-captivity-ray-peat-never-offered-a-way-out.52612/

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                                    A Former User @sphenoid
                                    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:34 PM

                                    @sphenoid Loving your work Sir😉

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                                      A Former User @Verdad
                                      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:41 PM

                                      @Verdad
                                      @sphenoid
                                      @Regina
                                      @S-Holmes

                                      Delusional
                                      characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgements about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition:

                                      based on or having faulty judgement; mistaken

                                      Common causes;
                                      Stress
                                      Alcohol and drug abuse
                                      Certain medications

                                      Nailed it!😨

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                                        ilovethesea
                                        last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 6:51 PM

                                        More evidence this is a coordinated attack. I found on Ray Peat Reddit there are a couple threads about RPF imploding.

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1atv75d/ray_peat_forum_gone_completely_mental/

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1at4clu/what_is_going_on_with_the_ray_peat_forum/

                                        There is one user https://www.reddit.com/user/Sweaty-Program-3322/ all over them crusading for low vit A and that “Ray Peat’s ideas don’t work”

                                        That person is obviously a plant. No legit organic movement would have people like this coming out of the woodwork at the same time on multiple forums. Do they think we’re really this stupid??

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                                          ilovethesea @Peoples
                                          last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 7:04 PM

                                          @Peoples Don’t know anything about his finances but yes it’s Life Giving Store. For anyone who relies on it for thyroid I saw someone on Twitter recommend this store as a good alternative https://shop.forefronthealth.com/

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