New "Mission" of RPF
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@heyman no you're right… America was founded by cults and utopianisms.
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yes, 1000%. Harold Bloom has written about America as a land of "gnostic" Christianity different from Europe, and also discussed utopianism. This is true since the founding - (Freemasons) Jews, Protestants, Mormons, Catholics (Mary-Land a Catholic "refuge"), Voodoo / Santeria, other folk religions, Muslims, and every other belief under the sun. Many utopian colonies were settled 18th-19th century by: Mennonite, Shaker, Quaker, Jehovah's Witness, French Catholics, Christian Science, Methodist, Pentecostalism, Dispensationalism etc.
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@Corngold solid comment. But the irony of their conspiracy theorisms of America, is that catholicism was banned/ostracized from much of society — a continuation of the liberal anglo-protestant religious war with catholicism
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While some of what is being accused of America may be accurate for some groups and persons, at specific times in her history, at least one highly respected, English Catholic had this to say about America:
"America is the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed. That creed is set forth with dogmatic and even theological lucidity in the Declaration of Independence; perhaps the only piece of practical politics that is also theoretical politics and also great literature."
"The American Declaration of Independence is in its elements a very Catholic document. Almost alone among the plans of modern institutions, it bases all government on the right of men to justice, and all rights of men on the authority of God. "
— G.K. Chesterton
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@LetTheRedeemed said in New "Mission" of RPF:
But the irony of their conspiracy theorisms of America, is that catholicism was banned/ostracized from much of society — a continuation of the liberal anglo-protestant religious war with catholicism
I think it's nuanced and more of a false binary.
The fact that Spain and France were Catholic and England / Scots / Germans were Protestant makes for interesting geography: the west, south and east were mixed and usually more Catholic (as well as French Canadians) whereas the interior was Protestant (not to mention Louisiana Purchase Catholic French lands). The coasts always have economic power, as did New Orleans, New York, and other NE cities.
Lincoln was supposedly executed by Catholic conspirators. Some of the Confederates (Calhoun I think) were educated in Catholic schools and spoke highly of "monarchy." The KKK operation features Spanish Catholic "capirote" uniform, and Jewish advisor to Confederate president Jefferson Davis, Judah Benjamin helped fund its operations from London. (London is an independent city, not affiliated with U.K. or England, just like D.C., with very old private guilds / merchant system). So there was a Jewish / Catholic false flag operating the decades after the Civil War.
Also - what about the South, who were supposedly "anti-Catholic?" If Lincoln got assassinated by Catholics, shouldn't this mean the South would be cheering on the Church and become welcoming of anti-Union Catholics? Maybe this got pushback because Catholics were not anti-Union and had nothing to do with Lincoln's assassination in reality. Catholics being a minority I would wager were largely pro-Union and pro-North (just my opinion).
The KKK seems to have been the death-knell operation for the South, because it was anti-Catholic, anti-Jew, black, etc. Maybe Southerners didn't believe in the Lincoln assassination story. They were suffering terribly from "Northern Aggression," and still have not healed even 100 years later.
So though Catholicism was "banned" I believe it was just a tightly controlled outlet for different political agendas just as we see today with immigration funds, diversity agendas, and an American Pope.
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