New "Mission" of RPF
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Trying to understand what the hell happened... the whole thing just imploded? Where did all these “toxic bile”/low vitamin A zealots come from?? I take offense to the new message at the top implying the forum is now “improving” on Ray’s life’s work (so humble
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Only a matter of time until the PsyOp lion introduces a "Ray Peat wrong again" smiley.
I don't think it was a good idea to use Dr. Peat's name for that forum in the first place. But I have participated in the forum, so it would be hypocritical for me to criticize the name too much.
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@Luke A good forum is it's members and what they contribute. As such, RPF was a very good forum for Peat's ideas, and if you search for specific things regarding Peat's ideas, you usually stumble on some post from the forum. Often they are a few key contributors, such as Haidut, who make it worthwhile.
The danger with centralized ownership of a forum is always that eventually the "owner" may use it for personal gain. I saw that often with other forums, and it never works. If there is an overriding personal agenda, the forum will die, and will be resurrected at another place. That place may be here, but one vcan only tell after a year or so.
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@Razvan Hey bro, nice to see you here as well.
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There is a natural cycle... (which can be prevented with a proactive approach)
Usually, early adopters/majority are highly engaged and interested in in-depth knowledge/understanding. And doing this with intellectual honesty and respect...
Then comes the rest... which usually prefers superficial understanding and easy mindless recipes.
And probably that happened in part to RPF, people with shallow/reductionist minds and a lack of systemic/holistic/dialectical understanding started to be the majority...
It also includes the commercialization of the forum... (as others already pointed out)
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@Amazoniac good to see you here. I think you would have to ask Georgi directly as I can't speak for the man. He is a man that likes to experiment. He may be channeling WIlliam Blake in "the true method of knowledge is experiment."
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@Charlie don't tase me brooooo
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Hi, in part just a very ineffective attempt to make at least some people believe that the ideas Charlie promotes, and the way he promotes them, are still Ray peat's ideas, and that it's legitimate for the forum to keep his name, when absolutely not,
the ideas that Charlie promotes, the lack of discernment and nuance with which he promotes them, the way in which he bans some of the people who have ideas that increase his insecurity, some of his total lies, do not correspond at all to Ray Peat's ideas, and are at least partly opposed to it
Potentially Charlie knows this, and he doesn't have so little discernment, potentially he just wants to continue in part to use Raymond Peat's name to sell his own suppléments
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Well I’ve just been banned. I asked why not rename the forum or start a new forum... said I found it insulting to Ray to claim to be “improving” on his life’s work when forum members have only a fraction of his experience. Then I said something about being unsure about the new religious overtones and how I wondered if there was a financial incentive for keeping things going under his name.
No answer, just a ban.
I was very respectful but he won’t even tolerate anyone who disagrees now? I’ve never even had a warning at that place and I’ve been there for 10 years.
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@Luke I dreamed he made a scrolling banner Ray Peat Wrong Again! last night.
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@ilovethesea He did you a favor.
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@Regina -power corrupts
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@Amazoniac hey buddy glad to reconnect with you here. you can keep pestering me with your fish jokes lol
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@Regina you’re probably right. What a trainwreck.
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this forum should steal the exact forum format of rpf, without all the cumb subforums though
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@Amazoniac said in New "Mission" of RPF:
If it's to prove something to the poison A crowd, the proponents rejected a century-worth of research on this toxin, in a manner that's captured here. I wonder what unique it would have to offer to make any difference for them at all. May be animal sacrifice in vain.
Syndicate meetings be like...
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Nice to see you here. Here's wishing for you to have recovered your pulmonary function. Enough of it at least.
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So many familiar names here. Good to see!
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@ThinPicking Thanks. Glad to see you here as well, where we continue to share and help each other with the same spirit we started with at RPF.
I encountered a perfect storm of my own making in a long and unending journey of 20+ years of lowering my blood pressure naturally. I went to the hospital twice in a year. A lot learned about the lungs and the heart, and how interwoven they are in a virtuous cycle when working well, and in a vicious cycle when not. RP's writings helped as I get to understand first-hand the pathology as I connect the dots that the doctors can't as they did save me but only with what they learned by rote in med school. As to be expected, cause and effect is not something part of it. A Nike ethos of "Just Do It" prevails.
