New "Mission" of RPF
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'Charlie' has said specifically and on more than one occasion lately that his family and business are being threatened by people upset by the new direction of the RPF, and that people are threatening his family and his business. That was one reason I asked earlier if anyone had visited his store, because I got the impression that he had a physical store with a known location. There was some stuff posted earlier showing a domain owner easily available online, but Peat that he still didn't know who the owner was or where they were located. That's where I'm confused. If so easy to find, why would he say that? Maybe I'm making too much of it, but it just seems odd given what has happened since Peat's death.
Edit: The file I was looking at may have been for the store and not the domain. I must have gotten confused by the talk of the domain owner around the same time. So I guess domain owners can remain anonymous and untraceable? Sorry, I don't have any expertise in this area.
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Does anyone know when exactly Charlie became a Garrett Smith convert? Garrett only started aggressively going after Ray Peat followers in Jan. 2022.
This is how it started... replying to a pro-Peat tweet months later
The next month demeans Ray by calling him a “blogger”
By Jun. 2022 ramps up the anti Peat campaign advertising himself as the saviour
Notice that he’s anti-progesterone
Full attack mode going after Chris Masterjohn too (Chris wrote a rebuttal here https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/my-response-to-garrett-smith-about
Criticizes Ray’s appearance and suggests he himself looks better
Suggests Ray was a federal agent - laughable
Derogatory language - “Peatard” was coined by Matt Stone btw
Denigrating Ray Peat followers as “angry”
All of this (there are many more examples) while putting out videos with a giant cross behind him to pander to his “fellow Christians”.
Then has the gall to “extend an olive branch” as if he hasn’t been provoking attacks for 2 years straight
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/dr-garrett-smith-offers-an-olive-branch-to-the-ray-peat-community.52638/ -
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@ilovethesea Lol'd at "I never caught the a-hole virus though". To answer your question, in the OP of his log thread, created on Feb 1st, he wrote about his miracle health turnaround that took a little under 2 years.
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Wow. A real charmer. I note the attempt to link Peat to the CIA.
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@ilovethesea Progesterone toxicity. This guy ***** ** ***
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This one is definitely my favorite. The guy looks like a fucking corpse with a severe allergic reaction, and has less hair than Peat at 85, yet he uses his physical appearance to taunt people like a retarded 12 year old.
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So I guess we can add delusional egomania to the list of pathologies acquired by restricting retinol.
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@Kvothe Peat never had to insult people to make himself look better, this is just pathetic. Why would anyone take advice from a guy with the emotional control of a toddler that thinks insults somehow make his argument better.
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Lately I've been questioning the origins of "Charlie" and the forum in the first place. I probably got linked by a FB group to the forum, but whoever started the forum wasn't anybody that I was aware of at the time, and I was pretty much searching around for more information, discussion groups and context of Ray Peat after reading a few of his articles online. I guess 'Charlie' could have been on Reddit or some other group if there was such a thing at the time (I don't remember), as he must have interacted or at least read somewhere to even know that there would be an interest in starting a forum discussing RP's work, which he apparently established anonymously and used a pseudonym for his online owner/moderator name, not suspect at all...
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The latest villain, coconut oil...
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Yes, and my sincere apologies if this is a real person, but I have become aware of interacting with AI on Twitter online which seems genuine but gives subtle clues. As the technology improves we may not be able tell the diffrerence, and part of the scam is establishing a seemingly legitimate online history in order to give the appearance of authenticity. I'm always skeptical in these conversion stories where people have suddenly seen the light or purportedly suddenly realized they've taken the wrong path, especially as it relates to established and credible sources like Ray Peat vs these charlatans that appear on the scene with the solutions to chronic problems which people are desperate to solve.
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@ilovethesea This saga of Garett Smith on Twitter and RPF Forum deliberate misinformation is more duplicitous than I expected. And to think Ray Peat expressed his disdain in 2018, which means he was aware of it even earlier (possibly even for years). It seems clear to me that 'Charlie' is well-aware and intentional in his monetary appropriation and slander of Ray Peat, and the apparent motivation is that he is underhandingly receiving money from Garrett Smith or at least signalling his intention to alliance with him like a sycophant.
In any case, none of this "Vitamin A" discussion is about health, medicine or nutrition (or God!) but is a marketing ploy to sell clients to Garrett Smith. It's just a business scheme, and a kind of fraud upon the principles which Ray Peat stood for.
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The latest villain, coconut oil...
I was banned for reply on that post
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If this wasn’t so ill
It would be funnySo
OBviOuShttps://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/emf-protection.52726/
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@jwayne said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ilovethesea This saga of Garett Smith on Twitter and RPF Forum deliberate misinformation is more duplicitous than I expected. And to think Ray Peat expressed his disdain in 2018, which means he was aware of it even earlier (possibly even for years). It seems clear to me that 'Charlie' is well-aware and intentional in his monetary appropriation and slander of Ray Peat, and the apparent motivation is that he is underhandingly receiving money from Garrett Smith or at least signalling his intention to alliance with him like a sycophant.
In any case, none of this "Vitamin A" discussion is about health, medicine or nutrition (or God!) but is a marketing ploy to sell clients to Garrett Smith. It's just a business scheme, and a kind of fraud upon the principles which Ray Peat stood for.
Breath of fresh air I needed this morning
Bless you
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@Peatful It's over. The "forum" is now a recruitment board for getting Garrett Smith clients. Toxic Bile Theory is just a keyword for advertising to make sales. There's no science to it that's why they lean heavily on religious expressions for their argument (e.g. "It is Written"). The intention is to just farm traffic with annoying headlines and lazy posts that aren't even written coherently. They will continue with "Gotcha!" studies to keep pushing for business leads and continue banning anyone who frustrates them with valid inquiry or points out the obvious subterfuge.
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@jwayne correct
It’s so clear
So clearBut
What can realistically be done about it?I guess those still active there
(Those that aren’t burner accounts)
Are the folks that polled in saying they thought the vaxxxine was to help people?https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-real-vax-reason-cast-your-vote.41787/
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The way Smith writes it's very clear that he is quite good at self-promotion, and uses the classic "copywriting" format: short sentences, simple words, many newlines, attention-grabbing, emotional baiting etc...But on the scientific front, he is an abject and disgraceful failure. No one should heed his advice.
