New "Mission" of RPF

[yerrag]

@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

You see fit to go thru Jesus for the gifts that you already have thru the Holy Spirit, because you have been programmed that way.

I was programmed that way too, but because I can override the programming, I see that going directly and using the gifts without having to go thru Jesus in enabling. I can go straight to God without coursing thru a medium (Jesus).

How do you reason forgoing one part of said programming, i.e. Jesus as an aspect of triune God, but not the other part, i.e. the Holy Spirit as a mediator of the Father? Without this programming, would it not be intuitive and natural to view God as just God, instead of dividing God to the Father and the Holy Spirit? How else would you have learned to conceptualize this division, if not for this programming?

How do you not understand what I've been saying all along about the aspect of God working in us thru the Holy Spirit and the aspect of God where we have to implore God to so something for us thru Jesus? One is about God working internally inspiring us to "do " and the other is about us depending constantly depending on Jesus to "do" something for us?

So what if God is unitarian and not binutarian? What if God is simply the Holy Spirit? So what if God is Father and the Holy Spirit?

For one steeped in bioenergetics, where health is about our own body internally making us healthy and not about the body being made healthy by external interventions such as drugs and vaccines, how do you not understand this?

[yerrag]

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:

I think you might be creating an unnecessary divide between the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit does not have a will of its own, but rather is a medium for Christ's work within us. When you turn to Jesus in prayer, Jesus responds to you via the Holy Spirit. Whether you are inspired to action or something else, it is channeled by external God through the Holy Spirit into your inner heart. Thus whether we refer to this as an external or internal process is not necessarily anything more than semantics.

You see fit to go thru Jesus for the gifts that you already have thru the Holy Spirit, because you have been programmed that way.

I was programmed that way too, but because I can override the programming, I see that going directly and using the gifts without having to go thru Jesus in enabling. I can go straight to God without coursing thru a medium (Jesus).

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6, KJV)

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5, KJV)

Just look at the fruits believing in the authors that claim the bible is of God

-ruled by love at the lower spheres, but

-dictated by fear at the higher spheres

Give me a nation ruled by men worthy to be of God working his beneficence thru its leaders and you will find none.

Give me one ruled by deceit and corruption and I will waste no time finding one, starting with the "land of the brave" and who proclaims in its money "In God we Trust," one filled with the hypocrisy Jesus so much loathes.

While the earth rots in hell as the Christian faithful keeps on waiting in eternal pining and longing for Jesus to come and save us at the Christian adaptation of Ragnarok at the awaited end times.

While we kid ourselves with a surplus of Jewish aphorisms to put us in an illusory state of happiness with attitudinal positivity.

[fiester]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:

I think you might be creating an unnecessary divide between the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit does not have a will of its own, but rather is a medium for Christ's work within us. When you turn to Jesus in prayer, Jesus responds to you via the Holy Spirit. Whether you are inspired to action or something else, it is channeled by external God through the Holy Spirit into your inner heart. Thus whether we refer to this as an external or internal process is not necessarily anything more than semantics.

You see fit to go thru Jesus for the gifts that you already have thru the Holy Spirit, because you have been programmed that way.

I was programmed that way too, but because I can override the programming, I see that going directly and using the gifts without having to go thru Jesus in enabling. I can go straight to God without coursing thru a medium (Jesus).

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6, KJV)

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5, KJV)

Just look at the fruits believing in the authors that claim the bible is of God

-ruled by love at the lower spheres, but

-dictated by fear at the higher spheres

Give me a nation ruled by men worthy to be of God working his beneficence thru its leaders and you will find none.

You act like this is a "gotcha", and it isn't.

Give me one ruled by deceit and corruption and I will waste no time finding one, starting with the "land of the brave" and who proclaims in its money "In God we Trust," one filled with the hypocrisy Jesus so much loathes.

America likely candidate for New Babylon, I don't care for it.

While the earth rots in hell as the Christian faithful keeps on waiting in eternal pining and longing for Jesus to come and save us at the Christian adaptation of Ragnarok at the awaited end times.

Viking larps are funny

While we kid ourselves with a surplus of Jewish aphorisms to put us in an illusory state of happiness with attitudinal positivity.

I hate Judiasm, think those who believe in "Judeo-Christianity" are foolish, and oppose those that deny Christ are use His name for their gain.

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9, KJV)

[yerrag]

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

You act like this is a "gotcha", and it isn't.

You said it. Your denial confirms it is a "gotcha" moment.

[fiester]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

You act like this is a "gotcha", and it isn't.

You said it. Your denial confirms it is a "gotcha" moment.

"I know you are but what am I"

[yerrag]

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

I hate Judiasm, think those who believe in "Judeo-Christianity" are foolish, and oppose those that deny Christ are use His name for their gain.

“The heart is deceitful above

Jesus came and preached love. The rules-based order sentenced him to die. At the behest of those whom he preached against. He was made an example of at his public trial and torture and crucifixion.

He was then used to create a new religion with a new compendium of books written by the men who knew how to control the narrative and make propaganda and make a new rules-based order that used love as an eye candy to ensnare more woolly eyed believers in the god of the Jews, this time calling it Christianity by adding a few wrinkles here and there. In words, it is based on love. But in practice, it is based in fear. Of hell, of God:s wrath to those who refuse to believe in the adornments added to the concept of a monotheistic God. A trinity of 3 persons in one God, calling it a mystery that rational people can't wrap their head around, and calling it pride that earns them eternal damnation while calling the believers blessed and humble and full of faith for having the ability to suspend their use of their mind to accept what they cannot understand. These men who question the trinity were persecuted and killed and disappeared and what is left are the "faithful," and without the naysayers to the falsehood of the trinity, it was a matter of time before Christianity was to be imprinted in all the subjects mindset and a creed ratified by a priesthood allied closely to the dominant empire at the time- the Roman Empire.

And so this cult is spread and the conquered became the faithful and the religion spread, under the pretense of liberating men from being Godlessness and savagery. And those who refused and believed in the natural law and in humanist ideals, as well as in other gods, were vanquished to be heard from no more.

In its heart and in its core, bad seed was sown. Strong roots firmly established to make permanent this institutionalization of mind control based on making peoples slaves while the illusion of godliness permeates under the spell of mass hypnosis. We are nothing but slaves and on the far end of normal reference range and deep into a pathological state spiritually.

Symptoms abound if you care to look around.

[fiester]

@yerrag

I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” (1 John 2:22-23, KJV)

[TheSir]

@yerrag the question remains: why talk of the Holy Spirit at all, since to you Christianity is programming to be overcome? It can only lead to confusion, as in the eyes of Christians the Holy Spirit affirms the divinity of Jesus. When conversing with them, you will end up using their terms in a way that does not agree with their definitions of those terms. Why deliberately hang on to the programming like that? Why continue use terminology that was brainwashed into you? Why not come up with your own terminology, now that you are empowered? That would be more congruent and less confusing.

[DKJoe]

@JamesGatz Big man... don't you owe a bunch of people money or clothes still?

[yerrag]

@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag the question remains: why talk of the Holy Spirit at all, since to you Christianity is programming to be overcome? It can only lead to confusion, as in the eyes of Christians the Holy Spirit affirms the divinity of Jesus. When conversing with them, you will end up using their terms in a way that does not agree with their definitions of those terms. Why deliberately hang on to the programming like that? Why continue use terminology that was brainwashed into you? Why not come up with your own terminology, now that you are empowered? That would be more congruent and less confusing.

It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.

Plain and simple.

And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.

I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.

[yerrag]

@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:

I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.

And you believe on faith alone that the bible is the word of God? Who told you so then?

Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity? That Christianity was a moderating force that averted many wars that could have been because Christian leaders were so effective as the third rail that kept many many crimes of humanity from seeing the light of day. That Christian leaders would protect its flock when the government abuses its powers? Yeah, what did your pastors and popes and bishops and ministers do when their flocks were herded into getting vaccines meant to harm them? Weren't their chorus of objection and indignation so loud you can hear a pin drop? Where was the love of a shepherd who would seek out the single lost sheep huh? Did they unite and protect one good man for whistleblowing against the abuse of power as an independent journalist and send a strong statement that God's wrath will befall the abusive leaders who hide under the immunity of national security and abuse its powers? Yes, I speak in defense of Julian Assange.

What is Christianity but a cult? But that is too kind of me to just say it is a cult? And you object to my kindness and my soft- pedaling.

I ask you: Didn't the whole cult sin by just sitting by and doing nothing when it could do something against the pathogenically habitual and chronic offenses done by governments against humanity? As a former Catholic I would go to confession for sins of commission and of omission. How grave the sin of failing to do what is right when the entire Christian church complex simply stood by and act nowhere like a good Samaritan in the bible.

And yet you speak of the bible and failed to act like a good Samaritan?

You're right. I see no point in this. Christianity is pointless and toothless and meaningless when its leaders and followers themselves rob it of the essence of Jesus, the exemplary prophet that he is to come to save humanity.

We are worthy of forty by forty years of exile from whatever he promised us.

[Truth]

@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief in the attributes you think he had?

[TheSir]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.

Plain and simple.

And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.

I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.

I'm afraid you are unwilling to acknowledge the issue. You can't approppriate someone's well defined terminology, rewrite it to suit your own needs and then expect not to have to explain yourself to anyone. Assuming otherwise demonstrates such an immense amount of hubris that it strongly testifies against your claim about your contact with the Holy Spirit. If all you have to show for your faith is pride, impatience and insults, you can be sure that you at least are as far away from God as the rest of the people and nations you criticize. Unfortunately, due to all the deceit and distraction you are engaging in, it is hard for anyone to understand what you are truly on about, and that does include me.

[yerrag]

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?

Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.

Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?

[Truth]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?

Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.

Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?

I dont have any source, i dont have any thoughts and beliefs related to that, unless i ask someone about his claims on it

You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?

"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?

[yerrag]

@TheSir

Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!

[TheSir]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity?

It is necessary to make a distinction between organized religion and the gospel, as they are, at least in certain sense, opposites: for whereas religion is about what man can do for God, the gospel is about what God has done for man. Since man is fundamentally flawed, even the things we do for God cause great harm to whole mankind. Thus, as you have intuited, all we can do is humble ourselves and let God work in us.

There is much for which Christianity can be criticized and blamed. Yet Christianity is not the gospel, nor is it the Church that is made up of those who live the gospel. As Jesus did not come to create a religion, but rather to free people from it, in this sense you are right in rebelling against organized Christianity. If only you were able to see that you don't need to discard what God has done for you in Christ in order to discard the shackles of religion.

[yerrag]

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?

Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.

Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?

I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.

You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?

"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?

You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.

You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.

[Truth]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?

Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.

Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?

I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.

You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?

"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?

You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.

You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.

Mentally ill person,

The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,

I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.

Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind

[TheSir]

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@TheSir

Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!

Considering your forceful attempts to dominate the discourse by making up lies about me and weaving fictitious narratives, as well as your consistent evasion of questions and counter arguments, this seems to be little else than projection. I continue being saddened by your recent dramatic change in character, but I hope deep down you are fine.